In a poll taken after the Gaza disengagement by Norwegian NGO Fafo, 65% of Palestinians strongly supported Al Qaeda terror attacks in the US and Europe. (
And nearly 80% want their fledgling new state (funded by the same countries they’d like to see attacked) to institute the Dark Ages code of shari’a law.
A poll carried out in the Palestinian Authority shows 65% support for Al Qaeda terror attacks on the United States and European countries - the biggest donors to the PA. The poll comes at a time when US and European funding of the Palestinian Authority is at an all-time high.
With elections due to be held next month and the Hamas terror group gaining significantly in municipal elections and polls, the survey further illustrates the desire of a majority of PA Arabs to establish an Islamic state, similar to Iran. A whopping 79.9% of Palestinians would like the PA to follow Shari’a - Islamic religious law. Included in the figure are 11.3% of the respondents, who would like to see Shari’a supplemented by the laws of a PA Legislature.
“What is striking is the willingness of Palestinians to turn against even the Western countries upon whom they are so totally dependent in order to progress,” said Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) Director Itamar Marcus. “The poll underscores what PMW has been documenting for years - the profoundly negative impact hate education has had on PA society ... Palestinians are not in direct conflict with the US, and certainly have counted on the Europeans as active allies. And yet an overwhelming majority desire to see Europeans and Americans killed by a religion-based terror organization.”
Muslims love the idea of imposing sharia
Posted by Flanstein at 6:35 PM
Western Muslims' Racist Rape Spree
By Sharon Lapkin
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 27, 2005
In Australia, Norway, Sweden and other Western nations, there is a distinct race-based crime in motion being ignored by the diversity police: Islamic men are raping Western women for ethnic reasons. We know this because the rapists have openly declared their sectarian motivations.
When a number of teenage Australian girls were subjected to hours of sexual degradation during a spate of gang rapes in Sydney that occurred between 1998 and 2002, the perpetrators of these assaults framed their rationale in ethnic terms. The young victims were informed that they were “sluts” and “Aussie pigs” while they were being hunted down and abused.
In Australia's New South Wales Supreme Court in December 2005, a visiting Pakistani rapist testified that his victims had no right to say no, because they were not wearing a headscarf.
And earlier this year Australians were outraged when Lebanese Sheik Faiz Mohammed gave a lecture in Sydney where he informed his audience that rape victims had no one to blame but themselves. Women, he said, who wore skimpy clothing, invited men to rape them.
A few months earlier, in Copenhagen, Islamic mufti and scholar, Shahid Mehdi created uproar when – like his peer in Australia – he stated that women who did not wear a headscarf were asking to be raped.
And with haunting synchronicity in 2004, the London Telegraph reported that visiting Egyptian scholar Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi claimed female rape victims should be punished if they were dressed immodestly when they were raped. He added, “For her to be absolved from guilt, a raped woman must have shown good conduct.”
In Norway and Sweden, journalist Fjordman warns of a rape epidemic. Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen stated that the steady increase of rape-cases and the link to ethnicity are clear, unmistakable trends. Two out of three persecutions for rape in Oslo are immigrants with a non-Western background and 80 percent of the victims are Norwegian women.
In Sweden, according to translator for Jihad Watch, Ali Dashti, “Gang rapes, usually involving Muslim immigrant males and native Swedish girls, have become commonplace.” A few weeks ago she said, “Five Kurds brutally raped a 13-year-old Swedish girl.”
In France, Samira Bellil broke her silence – after enduring years of repeated gang rapes in one of the Muslim populated public housing projects – and wrote a book, In the hell of the tournantes, that shocked France. Describing how gang rape is rampant in the banlieues, she explained to Time that, “any neighborhood girl who smokes, uses makeup or wears attractive clothes is a whore.”
Unfortunately, Western women are not the only victims in this epidemic. In Indonesia, in 1998, human rights groups documented the testimony of over 100 Chinese women who were gang raped during the riots that preceded the fall of President Suharto. Many of them were told: “You must be raped, because you are Chinese and non-Muslim.”
Christian Solidarity Worldwide reported that in April 2005, a 9-year-old Pakistani girl was raped, beaten with a cricket bat, hanged upside down from the ceiling, had spoonfuls of chillies poured into her mouth, and repeatedly bashed while handcuffed. Her Muslim neighbours told her they were taking revenge for the American bombing of Iraqi children and informed her they were doing it because she was an “infidel and a Christian.”
In Sudan – where Arab Muslims slaughter black Muslim and Christian Sudanese in an ongoing genocide – former Sudanese slave and now a human rights’ activist Simon Deng says he witnessed girls and women being raped and that the Arab regime of Khartoum sends its soldiers to the field to rape and murder. In other reports, women who are captured by government forces are asked; “Are you Christian or Muslim?” and those who answer Christian, are gang raped before having their breasts cut off.
Read it all...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20646
Posted by Flanstein at 8:22 AM
Merry Christmas infidels!
To all those who hold this holiday special - for religious or secular reasons - may I wish everyone a Merry Christmas!
Posted by Flanstein at 10:32 AM
About Flanstein
A young muslim asked me a question on another blog about myself and my motivation. Here is the question and my best attempt at a coherent answer...
". . .im asking not out of disrespect, but just because i want to know. why do you spend so much time writing mean and hateful things on Muslim blogs? what do you hope to accomplish? what is your personal experience with "Islam" that makes you so angry at Muslims specificaly? do you practice a particular relgion or spiritual system? where do you believe you will go when you die? please let me know. can you give me a direct honest answer please? these are just questions, not a challenge. my intentions are pure
i also would also like to know how you feel about black and latino people in general"
My values and standards are based on freedom - from and of - religion. Whether you're a Mormon or a Scientologist makes no difference to me - as long as you don't want to convert or kill me of course. I am an agnostic and when I die, I expect to go to the place from whence I came – nothingness. I am not angry at muslims – I am angry at islam for turning this flawed and imperfect world into a darker, less secure and more violent place.
I think it’s important that muslims know how many of us feel towards their religion. Islam, as Muslims love to point out to us, is not really a religion but 'a whole way of life' from the state apparatus down to the individual defecating at home. Islam as a 'whole way of life', as a political, social and economic ideology has proven time and again that it is an utter failure, producing corrupt dictatorial regimes, grinding poverty, illiteracy and intellectual backwardness, misogyny, hatred of the Other, debilitating fatalism, dysfunctional individuals, institutionalized hypocrisy and nihilistic terrorists. THIS is Islam.
Up until 9/11, I was essentially ignorant about islam, aside from knowing it was one of the monotheistic religions, I had some peripheral understanding about customs (I knew not to offer to shake the hand of devout muslim women, nor to offer muslims alcohol or pork during social occasions) aside from this pathetic spoonful of knowledge - that was about it. I assumed that muslims were essentially like me, interested in building their family, career and nation. It wasn’t until I started reading about islam did I find out the frightening truth.
It is not an act of hatred against Muslims to point out the depredations of jihad ideology. I believe in the equality of rights and dignity of all people, and that is why I oppose the global jihad. I simply hold up to the light the appalling things muslims say and do about non-muslims and the equally appalling things that are written in the Koran and hadiths that muslims quote as they kill innocent people. That you find the facts of your religion to be “mean and hateful” speaks volumes about it – not me.
"i also would also like to know how you feel about black and latino people in general"
Since I come from a mixed race family myself, I feel the same about black and latino people as I do about everyone else – why?
Finally, Flanstein is obviously not my real name. It has been my experience that muslims kill infidels who dare question their "religion", hence my hesitation for offering anything more about myself than absolutely necessary.
Posted by Flanstein at 11:49 AM
‘Tis the season to be Muslim
Ever wondered how much muslims loathed our society and everything we stand for? Wonder no longer - the warriors from the ROP are quite exercised about Christmas over at the jihadi site called the islamic network. Notice how they compare the holidays to having sex with young boys...
http://www.islamicnetwork.com/index.php
Tuesday, December 13, 2005
A couple of statements that I read recently have somewhat irked me. We had a Muslim leader suggesting that those who say Muslims take exception to Christmas decorations in the workplace are wrong. Then a more extreme view was advocated by a Muslim columnist in a national newspaper; she explained how this Christmas she’d be buying a tree, giving presents and serving halāl turkey in her home. So amidst all these voices declaring how much they don’t mind Christmas can I just point out that - I do? In fact if there ever were a day of the year that was in dire need of sabotaging then it’d have to be Christmas in my book.
How many times in the latter part of December do we get wished “Merry Christmas”? Simply put, too many! And the really irritating bit about it all is that it’s often said as a matter of routine and with little sincerity. So when you make the effort to point out that you don’t celebrate Christmas because you’re Muslim it can be met with “Look mate, I said Happy Christmas but I don’t really mean it, it’s just a phrase. You don’t have to give me your life story.”
Those that actually hang around for the explanation normally ask in shock “You mean you don’t give children presents?” Which contains a subtext of “Woe to you, oh child-torturer!”
“It’s a family festival, why don’t you just do it for the children’s sake?” Listen, I am doing it for the children, I’m purposely not indoctrinating them with this nonsense for their sake. Just because I don’t allow it in my home, nor give my kids presents, it doesn’t mean that I sit there on Christmas day branding their arms with hot coals. Think of it this way: last Tuesday what did you do? “Well nothing went to work, came home, nothing special.” Well that’s exactly what Christmas is to me – nothing special. In fact it’s the most irritating day of the year because I can’t do anything because you lot have shut down for 24 hours so that you can don red and white hats, drink and vomit (not necessarily in that order).
Strangers are the most difficult to respond to as they often turn their backs before you draw breath to explain. So you need a really concise reply to give as they disappear. I’ve variously heard suggested, “lakum dīnukum wa liya dīn”, “A’ūdhu billāh”, a friend told me that he normally just smiles and says “Allāhu akbar”.
My step brother suggested a slightly different approach:
“Merry Christmas!”
“Belated Ramadhan Karīm and Eid Mubārak!”
“Huh… what?”
“You know, the Islamic month of fasting and the festival at the end?”
“Yeah but… I’m not Muslim?”
“Yeah, and I’m not Christian/Pagan/Atheist (delete as applicable), so kindly keep your festival to yourself and I’ll do likewise!”
I like the way that our brother Gary Miller summarised the history behind the day:
“What great religious figure was [allegedly] the son of God, born in a stable or a cave at the end of December, who grew up and worked miracles, then died for the sins of men but three days later he was raised up?
Well as a matter of fact it could be any one of several dozen individuals, Osiris of the Egyptians, Adonis and Bacchus of the Greeks, Baal of the Babylonians, Mithras of the Persians, they all fit that description.”
There is an “It’s Christmas” aura that many exude and that for some reason we’re just supposed to accept that different rules apply. I purposely go out of my way to hammer home how normal a period this is for me. I remember when I had one of the local drunk/ticket-tout/scumbags stopped and searched by the police (which can be a part of my duty at work) on Christmas Eve. I was given this “But it’s Christmas, how could you?” puppy-dog-look. Hehe, not in my world it isn’t!
The only good thing about Christmas to my mind is the abundance of nuts. By which I’m referring to cashews and pistachios in the shops; and not, as funny as they may be, people falling down stairs or struggling home with more shopping than a mule could carry.
One person that every year receives Christmas cards from me is the bin man. And pending work colleagues (I seem to have a different manager every year) finally getting the point, I’ll doubtless be giving him many more over the years to come. “Here’s wishing you a Merry Christmas” and here’s wishing you’d just stuck it in the trash yourself and saved me doing it.
But the problem of Christmas-enthusiasm doesn’t end with non-Muslims; it’s the Muslim participation that’s more worrying. Suddenly tinsel starts appearing in the local Muslim-owned newsagents or grocers; putting aside for the moment that many often sell cigarettes, pork and alcohol. Actually, that reminds me about a Shaikh who studied in London for some time before returning to the UAE. He went into a newsagent like this and approached the shopkeeper.
“Do you have any whisky?” The shopkeeper knew who he was and became nervous, “Pardon?”
“You know whisky … to drink?” *makes drinking motion with hand*
“Well, no.”
“Why not?”
“Err… because it’s harām.”
“And what do you call that then?” *points at the top shelf of the magazine section where all the no-hayā’ material is on sale*
Muslim Christmas-ers, until recently, could hide behind Ramadhān; as the two were relatively close. I remember asking a Muslim chemist, “These decorations you have up, are they for Christmas or Ramadhān?” * Shifty eye movement * “Err… for Ramadhān!” But now that there is some distance between the two it isn’t as easy to conceal openly “joining in the fun”.
You only have to look at the local halāl butcher that puts up the sign “We would like to wish our customers a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.” Have you ever asked one why they do this? The answer is normally along the lines of “Brother, what can I do? It’s good for business.” I reasoned with one, if the non-Muslims had an annual festival where they celebrated your Dad’s inappropriate relationship with young boys, would you join in the festivities? Obviously not, so what about a festival alleging an even greater lie (i.e. son ship) and against someone who should be even more beloved to us than our fathers (i.e. Allāh)?
Didn’t Allāh tell us:
And they say, “The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.”
You have done an atrocious thing. The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation
That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.” (Maryam 19:88-91)?
So I hope you’ll excuse me but I find Christmas offensive!
Posted by Flanstein at 8:01 AM
Iran - the evil nation-state...
Last Updated Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:15:57 EST
CBC News
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stirred up international controversy Wednesday with a speech calling the Holocaust a "myth."
Ahmadinejad said the myth has been created by Europeans to create a Jewish state in the heart of the Islamic world.
"Today, they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets," Ahmadinejad said in a speech in the southeastern Iranian city of Zahedan.
Six million Jews were among those killed in Europe as part of the the Nazi Holocaust during the Second World War.
"If you [Europeans] committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?" Ahmadinejad asked in the speech which was carried live on state television.
"You [Europeans] have to pay the compensation yourself," he said, suggesting that all people in Israel should be transferred to other parts of the world.
"This is our proposal: give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them [the Jews] so that the Jews can establish their country," he said.
Israel denounces 'rogue regime'
Israel's Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Wednesday the comments show Iran is becoming a "rogue regime" with an "extremist ideology [and] a warped understanding of reality."
This is not the first time Ahmadinejad has spoken out against Israel or called into question the validity of the Holocaust.
Last week at a speech in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, he said "Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail."
In October he told a group of conservative students that Israel should be "wiped off the map."
"There is no doubt that the new wave of [attacks] in Palestine will wipe off this stigma [Israel] from the face of the Islamic world," he said.
The next day he stood by his words saying, "My words are the Iranian nation's words."
Ahmadinejad was elected last June with a goal to make the country "a modern, advanced, powerful and Islamic" model for the world.
A loyal hardliner and former mayor of Tehran, Ahmadinejad had the backing of Iran's upper and middle classes.
Posted by Flanstein at 9:23 AM
Muslim entertainment
Italy tape: 'Joy' over beheading
Sunday, December 11, 2005; Posted: 5:41 p.m. EST (22:41 GMT)
MILAN, Italy (AP) -- Italian police were listening as the man identified as an Egyptian radical shouted with joy while watching a video of the beheading of American Nicholas Berg by his al Qaeda captors.
"Come nearer, watch closely, this is the politics you have to follow, the politics of the sword," he advised another man as Berg's screams rang out.
"Go to hell, enemy of God, kill him, kill him, cut it well, cut off his head," he said.
Authorities say the statements recorded from phone taps and microphones show that Rabei Osman Sayed Ahmed, a 34-year-old Egyptian facing trial in Milan next month on terrorism charges, preached a radical form of Islam and the need to carry out holy war against Western elements.
The trial is considered one of Europe's major terrorist prosecutions in recent years. Ahmed is not only accused of terrorist crimes in Italy and of having links to cells across Europe, but he also is considered one of the masterminds of the March 11, 2004, train bombings in Madrid that killed 191 people and wounded more than 1,600.
Guido Guella, Ahmed's lawyer, said his client maintains his innocence and claims he "never had any role in any association with terrorist aims." He said the Egyptian also says he is not the person speaking on the tapes.
But prosecutors say the statements, which appear in a report prepared by Italian anti-terrorism police, are proof of Ahmed's extremist beliefs. He has been indicted on terrorism charges for allegedly planning an attack in an undisclosed location.
In the May 28, 2004, conversation about the Berg tape, Ahmed's co-defendant, 22-year-old Egyptian Yahia Ragheh -- described by authorities as a would-be suicide bomber -- questions Ahmed's assertions.
"It's not a sin?" he asks.
"Who said this?" Ahmed replied. "It's never a sin ... because the cause is never a sin ... Are you scared? Are you shocked?"
"No no, I think it is a sin, I only think it's a sin," Ragheh said.
"When you enter a movement it's never a sin because there's a cause, the Islamic cause, all in hell ... everyone finishes in hell, everyone. For those who wound Islam the end is this."
Ragheh's lawyer, Roberta Ligotti, did not return calls from The Associated Press seeking comment.
Berg, a 26-year-old entrepreneur, went missing April 10, 2004, after leaving his Baghdad hotel. The video that surfaced shows him in an orange jumpsuit being held by captors, then being beheaded by a man who some U.S. officials believe to be terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
The taped conversations also reveal Ahmed's alleged connection to the Madrid bombings, authorities say.
"There is something, there is something I can't hide from you," he said, lowering his voice in a conversation overheard in a Milan apartment two months after the attacks. "The Madrid attack is my project and those who died as martyrs are my dearest friends."
Spanish officials have described Ahmed as one of the March 11 ringleaders. Italian Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu said after his arrest that Ahmed was "probably among the principal authors" of the Madrid bombings, and that he was "preparing other attacks."
Officials have not said where Ahmed, who was trained in the use of explosives in the Egyptian army, was planning the attacks.
Posted by Flanstein at 9:40 PM
Iran - the festering sore that calls itself a nation.
Iran's Ahmadinejad says Israel should be moved to Europe
AFP ^ | December 8, 2005
Iran's hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that if Germany and Austria feel responsible for massacring Jews during World War II, a state of Israel should be established on their soil. Ahmadinejad, who sparked an international outcry in October when he said Israel "must be wiped off the map", also repeated his view Thursday that the Jewish state was a "tumour".
"Now that you believe the Jews were oppressed, why should the Palestinian Muslims have to pay the price?" the hardline president asked in an interview with Iran's Arabic-language satellite channel, Al-Alam.
"Why did you come to give a piece of Islamic land and the territory of the Palestinian people to them?
"You oppressed them, so give a part of Europe to the Zionist regime so they can establish any government they want. We would support it," he said, according to a transcript of his original Farsi-language comments given to AFP.
"So, Germany and Austria, come and give one, two or any number of your provinces to the Zionist regime so they can create a country there which all of Europe will support and the problem will be solved at its root," he said.
"Why do they insist on imposing themselves on other powers and creating a tumour so there is always tension and conflict?"
Al-Alam said Ahmadinejad was speaking in the holy city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia where he was attending a two-day meeting of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference that opened Wednesday.
"Is it not true that European countries insist that they committed a Jewish genocide? They say that Hitler burned millions of Jews in furnaces ... and exiled them," Ahmadinejad told Al-Alam.
"Then because the Jews have been oppressed during the Second World War, therefore they (the Europeans) have to support the occupying regime of Qods (Jerusalem). We do not accept this," he said.
He also noted that European countries "believe in this so much and are so determined that any researcher who denies it (the Holocaust) with historical evidence is dealt with in a most harsh way and sent to prison."
The Holocaust was Nazi Germany's systematic slaughter of an estimated six million Jews between 1933 and 1945, mainly in the latter years of World War II.
Official Iranian media frequently carry sympathetic interviews with Holocaust revisionist historians -- who attempt to establish that the number of Jews killed by the Nazis was wildly exaggerated.
Iran refuses to recognise Israel.
Ahmadinejad said his second proposal was for "a referendum in Palestine for all the original Palestinians" to decide on the future of what is now Israel, the Gaza Strip and West Bank.
But the president said that "the best solution is resistance so that the enemies of the Palestinians accept the reality and the right of the Palestinian people to have land."
Posted by Flanstein at 11:56 AM
Oriana Fallaci:the Qur’an is the Mein Kampf of this movement
“There is not,” she asserted, “good Islam or bad Islam. There is just Islam. And Islam is the Qur’an. And the Qur’an is the Mein Kampf of this movement. The Qur’an demands the annihilation or subjugation of the other, and wants to substitute totalitarianism for democracy. Read it over, that Mein Kampf. In whatever version, you will find that all the evil that the sons of Allah commit against themselves and against others is in it.”
As they say, read it all...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20359
Posted by Flanstein at 7:03 AM
What do muslims watch on TV to relax?
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A group of suspected Islamists, including the jailed killer of a Dutch filmmaker, watched films of beheadings, a court heard as they went on trial on Monday for plotting attacks and belonging to a terrorist group.
Dutch police arrested the 14 men after the murder of Theo van Gogh last November by Mohammed Bouyeri, who shot and stabbed the filmmaker before slashing his throat, an act prosecutors said at his trial in July "evoked beheadings in the Middle East, Chechnya, Afghanistan and Iraq".
Prosecutors suspect Bouyeri, now serving life in jail, held meetings in his home for the group, who they say wanted to destabilize society establish an Islamic state through violence.
The trial is a test of a new Dutch law, which introduced the charge of "membership of a criminal organization with terrorist intent" carrying a maximum sentence of 15 years. The group of Muslim men are of largely Moroccan immigrant descent.
Monday's proceedings, in a packed high-security court nicknamed the "bunker", started with an attempt to question Malika Chabi, the 17-year-old former wife of one of the accused, Nouriddin El Fatmi, also known as Fouad.
Dressed in a long, rose-colored robe with a black headscarf, Chabi refused to speak in court, but the statement she had given to police earlier was read out by the presiding judge.
"A throat must be cut from the front, but not entirely so there is maximum suffering. Fouad said this while a film was shown on which people were beheaded," her statement said.
"He showed knives and films about slaughtering and showed us how to take a knife out of its scabbard and said he and Bouyeri stole sheep from a farm to practice slaughtering."
The judge said Chabi told police that El Fatmi had said they should drive a car carrying explosives into a shopping center to die as martyrs and then quoted verses from the Koran.
Posted by Flanstein at 7:09 AM
If all muslims were like this dude - I'd 86 my blog...
The RP's blog is one of the funniest muslim blogs out there. You owe to yourself to read him. Sadly, few other muslims share his sense of humour...
http://muttawa.blogspot.com/
The Religious Policeman FAQ
I've been getting quite a few emails of late, so I thought that I would update my previous FAQ.
1. Who are you?
I am a Saudi, originally from Riyadh, currently an expatriate in the United Kingdom. I am married (to my one and only ever wife), have a family, with a Filipino maid and driver (her husband) who are at the moment enjoying a paid sabbatical back home . Beyond that, I am not prepared to disclose.
2. Is that your photo?
No, it's not. It is actually Sheikh Ibrahim Bin Abdullah Al-Ghaith, General President for the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. The head "Religious Policeman", or Muttawa. Callsign "Mutt One"
3. Why The Religious Policeman?
Because, in my opinion, the Religious Police epitomize what is wrong with my country at present. They combine religious fanaticism and intolerance with the apparatus of a police state. They are recruited from the dregs of society, yet they presume to tell other God-fearing people how to conduct their religious lives. They killed innocent young lives in Makkah, yet they were never held to account.
4. Why are you publishing a Blog?
I'm a great believer in the Internet, and in the power of information to cast a light into the darker corners of our world. Saudi Arabia is certainly one of those dark corners. I'm hoping that people will recognize that on the whole we are good folk, just like anyone else, but caught between an ultra-conservative Royal dictatorship on one side, and a fundamentalist religious establishment on the other. I am hopeful that this will inform their opinions of us. I would also like, in my own small way, to educate opinion within Saudi Arabia and around the world that might start to engineer change in our country.
5. Is it dangerous to do this?
The ruling elite would not, if or when they think about it, look kindly upon my efforts. If found out, I would certainly lose my job, as already happens to those who publish critical letters in the press. I might also become a guest of Prince Nayif, until I "got my mind right". However I'm not a super-hero; if I suspect that a net is closing, then I will cease blogging.
6. How do you avoid being intercepted?
All Saudi ISP's are connected to the outside world thru a bank of servers in the KACST (King AbdulAziz City of Science and Technology), where no doubt much listening goes on. However, like many Saudis, I illegally use a satellite link for my connexion. This materializes who-knows-where in the wider Internet. Maybe there is also some form of relay involved. Who knows? While in the UK, of course, things are much easier.
7. Where did you learn to speak such good English?
Thank you, very kind of you to say so. I was educated both in the UK and the USA. God also gave me the gift of being a linguist; indeed, I would go so far as to say that I am a language "geek". I could make myself sound like most Arabs speaking in English, simply by missing out "the", "a" and "an" all the time, but that would be difficult for everyone to read. I suppose I am also a bit of a mimic. In addition, learning English exposed me to a whole world of literature, from Shakespeare thru Tolstoy (in translation) to Garrison Keillor and all points between, not to mention all those movies, not to mention the trashiest bits of 21st century popular culture.
8. What did you study abroad?
That would be a giveaway! However in the UK I learnt to speak correctly, to be polite, to play soccer and cricket, and never to smile when making a joke. In the USA I learnt to misspell ;-), that Jews are not only human but can be really nice and extremely funny, to question and challenge, and that people only get the respect they deserve.
9. Are you really a Saudi and a Muslim?
Well, perhaps I am like that dog in the cartoon. Perhaps you all are, as well. Perhaps all the humans are doing what they should do, not being on the internet, but spending time with their families. Saudis are in the best position to judge from my writings and my knowledge of Saudi society, whether I am genuine or not. However I will not, as I was once requested by someone, "prove" my nationality, presumably by publishing a scan of my passport and Id card, for reasons that will be obvious to everyone else. If there is anyone who cannot read this blog without having proof of my nationality, they may be more comfortable with some of the other 3.5 million blogs out there.
As a Muslim, I certainly feel more comfortable in countries such as the UK, where they generally have have a more relaxed, but no less holy, approach to their religious life. Although it is not for me to judge, I am possibly a better Muslim in terms of the fundamentals of the religion, rather than in terms of the ritualistic rules-based "praying-by-numbers" approach. I also believe that whatever we call Him, we all worship the same God, and he requires us to love one another. I am not going to kill you because you read from a different book.
10. Will you reply to emails?
As I was taught at school, I will aim to reply to every letter I get, even if briefly. I will answer simple questions if they are not too taxing. However I cannot answer detailed lists of questions, but may address them in subsequent posts, as the opportunity arises. Occasionally I get requests to help write peoples' school assignments or Ph.D. theses, which is very flattering, but not part of the service! Also I cannot enter into an exchange of correspondence that might lead me to reveal any further personal information.
I am also grateful for emails pointing me to relevant items on the internet.
11. Why don't you write in Arabic?
Because the audience I am addressing speaks English. It consists of educated Saudis and Arabs, who speak English to a greater or lesser extent, and also the wider body of world public opinion, also largely English-speaking, living in countries that support the Saudi regime thru trade and political patronage.
If I were also to address an Arabic-only audience within Saudi Arabia, it would not just be a question of language, it would also be a question of style. To be frank, my brand of humor does not get many laughs in a Bedu encampment. The style would need to be simple and folksy, which doesn't appeal to me personally. If someone else wants to do that sort of blog, I will give them every encouragement.
12. Do you hate Saudi Arabia?
I don't hate Arabia; it is my country. I detest the name "Saudi", because it implies that the Saud family own it, instead of it belonging to God and the people. How would you feel about "The Bush States" or "Windsor Britain"? That aside, it is an ambivalent relationship. I love the sense of family and community in the country, but I don't like its backwardness, and the way it is used by royal and religious elites for their own ends.
I want to see Saudi Arabia develop and improve, and quickly, so that it can be a source of real pride for everyone. But it will only do that when it faces up to its problems, and decides to do something about them. Not everyone likes doing that, it makes them uncomfortable, and they often resent the people who do say "That's wrong!". So it can be convenient to try and dismiss people like me as "unpatriotic" or "un-Saudi". I'll live with that.
13. Do you hate Islam?
No, but I detest the people who have hijacked the religion for their own perverted ends, be they Wahabbi fundamentalists or Al Qaeeda terrorists. They don't represent the vast majority, but are bringing shame on all Muslims. In response to this, Muslims react in one of four ways:
(i) To ignore the problem, to perform their own devotions, but otherwise keep their heads down.
(ii) To deny that there is a problem, or when the problem is obvious, to deny that Muslims are involved, or when it's obvious that Muslims are involved, to deny that Islam is anything to do with it, or when it's obvious that Islam is a factor, to say that it's a "special case", etc. etc.
(iii) To become apologists. "You need to understand our history / our culture / our being victims of colonization /our persecution etc. etc."
(iv) To criticize. Again, this makes (i) to (iii) feel very uncomfortable. So internal critics get labelled as "apostates", "Islamophobes", "bad Muslims", "traitors" etc. However, history tells us again and again that (i) to (iii) don't bring about change; it either comes from internal criticism, or it is forced from outside. And I don't want to see Islam "reformed" by some neo-conservative Christian fundamentalist "Holy War".
14. Do you make this stuff up?
I know a lot of this stuff sounds wacky, but all I'm doing is reporting what's been published elsewhere, and passing my own comments. I always give a reference to the original text; if you don't like what you read there, don't blame me, I'm only the messenger!
The dialogs are of course my own creation; however the opinions and attitudes of the characters won't be a million miles from what I've portrayed.
15. Are you optimistic for change?
Well, we all have our good days and our bad days. I think we'll see some tinkering around. Perhaps the cinema, showing "approved" movies.
But long-term, I think the answer is O-I-L. While ever those countries that could bring about change, depend on the Kingdom for their oil, and as long as the oil is not threatened by Al Qaeeda, I don't think we'll see too much improvement.
But I'll soldier on anyway, doing my own thing.
Posted by Flanstein at 11:51 AM
Convert to islam - kill infidels...
SHE came from an ordinary family in an industrial Belgian town. She used to sell baguettes in a bakery, and worked as a waitress in a café. She showed the rebelliousness of a typical teenager, but even in their worst dreams her parents never imagined that Muriel Degauque would end her life by blowing herself up in a suicide bomb attack against American troops in Iraq.
The story of the 38-year-old Belgian’s journey from baker’s assistant to Baghdad bomber, making her the first Western woman suicide bomber, emerged in shocking detail yesterday as her parents tried to make sense of her life.
Jean and Liliane Degauque, a former crane operator and a medical secretary, said that they had watched their daughter’s gradual transition from Christian to Islamic zealot, and feared the worst when they saw the TV news on Tuesday.
“For about a month we had been trying to call her and just kept getting her voice mail. When we heard on Tuesday evening on the television that a Belgian woman had blown herself up in Iraq, we thought it was Muriel,” her mother said. A visit from the Belgian police the next morning confirmed those fears, and by yesterday morning Muriel’s friendly, pretty, face was smiling from the front of a Belgian national paper. “Here is the Belgian kamikaze, killed in Iraq,” proclaimed the headline.
Muriel was born in Charleroi, grew up in her brick home at 33 Rue de l’Europe — a quiet street in the shadow of a coal tip — and was educated at the local high school. “She was absolutely normal as a kid,” Jeannine Samain, a neighbour, said. She was never easy. “When she broke a vase in the sitting room, she said that Jean-Paul (her older brother) had done it even though he had been upstairs doing his homework ,” her mother told La Dernière Heure.
As an adolescent, she dabbled in drugs, smoked, drank heavily and sometimes ran away from home. “One time I had to go 170km to get her back from the Ardennes,” M Degauque said. She was more interested in boyfriends than studies. “I don’t know how many of them she had.” She found jobs as a waitress and a baker’s assistant, but was accused of stealing from the till. Tragedy then struck the family when Jean-Paul was killed in a road accident.
Muriel moved from Charleroi to Brussels, which has a large Islamic community. She married and divorced a Turkish man, and had a long relationship with an Algerian, who converted her to Islam in 2001. Three years ago she married Issam Goris, who was born in Belgium to Moroccan parents, and followed him to Morocco.
“They told us that they had a house in Morocco and some horses, and a Mercedes and three motorbikes. We never found out whether it was true,” said her mother, who blames Goris for brainwashing her daughter. When Muriel returned to Belgium, her mother no longer recognised her. She had become “more Muslim than Muslim”, she said. “The religion was totally ingrained in her. She only lived for that.”
Initially, she wore a hijab, or Islamic veil, but soon started wearing the head-to-toe chador that leaves the face visible. Finally she wore a burka. She became ever more estranged from her parents. “When we saw them, they imposed their rules. We were at home, but my husband had to eat in the kitchen with Issam while the women ate together in the sitting room. There was no question of putting on the TV or opening a beer,” M Degauque said.
“My husband got so fed up that he said the next time they came round we should leave them by themselves.”
Muriel and her husband lived in a small two-room flat in Saint Gilles, one of the poorest and most racially mixed areas of Brussels, paying €375 (£255) a month rent.
In mid-September they left, telling their landlord they were going to Kenya to try to find Goris’s father. “They had stayed in the flat for two years. I never had any problem with them. They did not leave any forwarding address, saying they might come back in six months to a year,” her landlord told The Times. “She wore a burka all the time. I never saw her face, only her eyes,” he added.
But Kenya was not their real destination. The two radical Muslims instead drove by car across Turkey and Syria into Iraq, determined to kill themselves and as many Americans as possible.
According to conflicting reports, Muriel killed either only herself, or six people. On the same day, in a separate incident, Goris was shot dead by American troops before he could detonate his belt-bomb.
Posted by Flanstein at 9:44 AM
"Most likely to become a martyr"
FALLS CHURCH, Va. -- An American citizen whose father worked for the Saudi Embassy is convicted for conspiring with Al Qaida operatives to assassinate President George W. Bush.
Ahmed Abu Ali, of Falls Church, Va., admitted to the crime in a videotaped confession.
As a boy, Abu Ali attended the Saudi Islamic Academy in Alexandria. He even became a member of the National Honor Society. In his senior year, Ali's classmates voted him "the most likely to become a martyr."
In the video, the 24-year-old said he went to Saudi Arabia in 2002 to study Islam, and met an Al Qaida operative who invited him to join the Jihad against America.
"I immediately accepted because of my hatred of the U.S., for what I felt was its support of Israel against the Palestinian people," Abu Ali said on the tape.
Abu Ali also admitted that he suggested blowing up American warplanes, warships, or targeting hi-ranking U.S. officials.
He also said it was his Al Qaida contact's idea to kill the president.
Ali Abu went on to say on the videotape, "I preferred this idea because it was easier to carry out since the U.S. president often appears in pubic places."...
During his trial, Ali testified that the Saudis beat the confession out of him. But jurors saw him on tape pretend to cock a rifle and laugh.
"What was striking was how relaxed he looked, almost carefree...[he] didn't look like someone tortured, pressured into confessing," said Roger Cressey, an NBC News Terror Analyst.
Posted by Flanstein at 7:10 AM
How evil are muslims?
Here's a small example...
By Don Mackay And Andy Lines
THE sister of a failed British suicide bomber allegedly taunted her pupils days after 9/11: "Hands up everybody who has relations in New York? Well, they're dead."
But supply teacher Parveen Sharif and brother Zahid were yesterday cleared of failing to alert police over their brother Omar Sharif's mission to blow up Mike's Place bar in Israel.
The jury was not told of the alleged comments to primary pupils, which were said to include her boasting: "I'm on Osama bin Laden's team."
Parveen, 37, denied the claims which emerged in pre-trial submissions made at the Old Bailey.
Ruling the evidence inadmissible, the Recorder of London Michael Hyam said: "Although the complaint about what Parveen was alleged to have said was made within a day or two, no note was made at the school or anywhere else as to what she had said.
"It is clear the schoolchildren knew she was a suspect for the offences."
Parveen and Zahid were the first to be tried under laws which make it an offence for those with knowledge of a terrorist offence not to come forward.
The prosecution alleged emails between Omar and his family shortly before the April 2003 attack proved they knew of his plans. It was also claimed Parveen emailed Omar encouraging him to go through with it. But the jury cleared Parveen of incitement.
Omar, 27, from Derby, and friend Asif Hanif, 21, from Hounslow, West London, hoped to become Britain's first Islamic martyrs.
Hanif detonated his bomb in Mike's Place bar in Tel Aviv, killing three people and injuring 65. But Omar's bomb failed to explode. His body was found in the sea 12 days later.
Omar's wife Tahira Tabassum, 29, was cleared of failing to disclose information relating to terrorism at a trial last year. Then, jurors failed to reach verdicts on Parveen and Zahid, 38, both from Derby.
In the latest trial, the jury heard that eight days before the bombing, Omar wrote an email to Zahid.
He said: "Difficult times may lie ahead for you and your family in the next few weeks or months if Allah wills. Plan now and get rid of any material you may consider problematic." In the same email he told Tahira to look after their three children.
He added: "We did not spend a long time together in this world but I hope through Allah's mercy and your patience we shall spend an eternity together."
It ended: "Delete this message."
Parveen wrote a reply a day later which was said to have encouraged him to die for their cause.
She emailed: "Your guarantee is for the eternal life ahead but our soul is eternal. You should not be sad but determined in your aims." She ended: "We will speak to you real soon as we are guaranteed this. There is no goodbyes just a lapse of time. May Allah join us all soon."
Police believed the email meant they would all meet in paradise as a reward for Omar's martyrdom.
But outside court Zahid said: "We did not know what our brother was going to do. It shocked us as much as everyone else and we are still shocked.
"There were many misunderstandings about our religion and culture in this case but people tried to reach out and understand."
Grampian Primary School, in Sinfin, Derby, said: "Parveen worked here through an agency for two days in September 2001.
"At the end of that time, pupils complained about comments she made in class which had upset them.
"As a result, the supply agency was told not to send Parveen again."
Her then employer Select Education plc said: "Parveen's teaching ability has never been brought into question. Parveen accepted the comments were inappropriate and undertook not to repeat them."
Posted by Flanstein at 2:25 PM
Offensive?
Last month, Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts suggested that since virtually every terrorist attack around the world has been carried out by Muslims, it might behoove us to listen in on what is being preached in American mosques.
Strict Islamic countries find women wearing white socks sexually provocative and offensive. Pictures of humans or animals are offensive and men who shave their faces are offensive. Card playing is offensive. Girls attending school and receiving an education are also offensive. Women who vote are also offensive.
A woman daring to leave her home without permission even to rush her sick child to a doctor is offensive. Of course, female doctors are offensive so any woman requiring medical care can’t receive it because all the doctors are men.
Islamics also seem to be offended by: America, Great Britain, Poland, Israel, Australia, Spain, Italy, Japan, Russia, and New Zealand, just to mention a few countries. Interestingly, Islam doesn’t seem to be as offended by France or Germany.
In fairness, what Islam doesn’t find offensive should be examined. Many Muslims did not find the murder of 3000 people on 9/11 offensive. Saddam Hussein, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands fellow Muslims, was not offensive. Forbidding the practice of other religions in an Islamic country is not offensive while daring to question what might be going on inside a mosque in America, is terribly offensive.
The murder of thousands of Iraqi Muslims doesn’t seem to offend Islamics, as long the killing is being done by other Muslims. If an American soldier kills a Muslim trying to kill him, that is offensive. The beheading of helpless prisoners by “freedom fighters” is not offensive. Putting mass murderers in a prison camp that provides good food, allows time to pray, provides copies of the Quran and prayer rugs, gives medical and dental care, and allows Islamic clerics to provide the prisoners with religious council, is offensive.
The Quran touching the floor is offensive but urinating on or burning the Bible is not. Profiling people from Islamic countries that support terrorism is offensive but imprisoning Christians for wearing a cross is not.
Teaching people about Islam is encouraged, but teaching Christianity is a beheading offense.
Islamics are not offended when Omar Ahmad, co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, declares that it is the goal of CAIR to replace our Constitution with the Quran and is incensed if Americans are offended. After all, that is being disrespectful of the Quran. Any American who does not want the Quran replacing the Constitution and who speaks out against Islam is immediately labeled an “Islamaphobe.” When Islam is involved, there is no freedom of speech.
Another thing that doesn’t seem to offend many Muslims is the killing of a ten-year-old rape victim. She must have been “asking for it.” The little vixen soiled the family name and was probably wearing white socks. Also not offensive is the stoning to death of women who are merely suspected of “being with a man not their husband.” Hanging college students who dare to speak out against oppressive and cruel ayatollahs isn’t offensive to many Muslims either.
Muslims are not offended by the age-old Islamic tradition of forcing their young daughters to marry their 60-year-old uncles. Girls as young as 12 are forced to marry their cousins and occasionally even their half-brothers. This is done to keep the family money in the family. However, this practice also produces the genetic defects caused by constant inbreeding.
What Americans should find offensive is how the media, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), CAIR, and American leftists recoil in horror if a cruel word is said about Islam as they all set about the business of destroying our own Christian-based society. As socialists and atheists slowly remove all traces of God from America, Islamics are standing ready to fill the void with Allah and Islamic law. Any American who doesn’t believe that we are war with Islam isn’t paying attention.
Americans need to wake up from their liberal-media and television-induced stupor. CAIR and the ACLU do not represent American culture but they are both being allowed to destroy it. That offends me. It should offend you.
Posted by Flanstein at 3:48 PM
Muslims in power (shudder...)
This article was written a few years ago but is especially prescient now that so many muslims long for an islamic "government". A typical muslim women had this to say on another blog: "Islam is the solution" sounds right to me. Why is it assumed that "democracy is the solution"? As a Muslim, I don't have any particular desire for a democratic state.
by Shauna Lambrecht
The woman of Afghanistan see the world through a swatch of mesh. In September of 1994, a group of religious young men from Pakistan, the "Taliban," led by Mullah Mohammad Omar, appeared on the Afghanistan political scene. They gave the impression that they had come to rid Afghanistan of corruption and disorder. The Taliban attacked and captured provinces until they got to the capital Kabul. After nine-months and 231 bombs the Afghanistan government surrendered. The Taliban claim to follow a pure, fundamentalist Islamic ideology, yet they display harsh oppression against women. Within Islam, women are allowed to earn and control their own money and participate in public life.
Women in Afghanistan, under Taliban rule, were confined to their homes unless a close male relative escorted them. Women must wear a "burqa," and may not speak in public; their escorts must speak for them so they do not excite the males with the sound of their voices.
At age eight, girls are not allowed to attend school. In 1996, women were outlawed from owning businesses. Those that did were told to shut them down. In Afghanistan, 70 percent of school teachers, 50 percent of government officials and 40 percent of the doctors were women prior to 1996.
A male physician cannot treat women, yet at the same time, very few women are allowed to practice medicine. Many women and young girls died of treatable ailments because they were prohibited from being treated by a male doctor or being placed in hospitals where males are present. Instead, women were placed in small dirty clinics where there is no running water. Their supper come at six every night in a wheelbarrow. In the only maternity hospital, most women deliver their children on the floor or double up in a twin bed with another expectant mother. Several women tried to commit suicide by drinking household cleaner: they would rather die than live in these horrible conditions. Surveyed by Physicians for Human Rights, 97 percent of Afghan women exhibit signs of suffering major depression.
Women had to paint all of the first floor windows black in their homes, so men couldn’t look inside. They had to have black curtains along the windows of the buses that they rode in so that no one could look inside.
Every Friday, people gathered in the city of Kabul to watch the public whippings, stonings, amputations and executions of people who had dared to oppose the Taliban. Several Internet reports and magazines articles expose the Taliban’s cruelty. One elderly woman was walking when her ankle showed from underneath her burqua. The "religious police" saw her and broke her ankle with a metal cable. A woman tried to flee Afghanistan with a male who was not her close relative and was stoned to death for adultery. One woman dared to disobey the Taliban by teaching little girls in her own home. They shot her in front of her husband, daughter and students.
All of these crimes brought to you in the name of the Religion of Peace™
Posted by Flanstein at 6:59 AM
Saudi jailed for not hating Jews
Saudi jailed for discussing the Bible
Washington Times
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) -- A court sentenced a teacher to 40 months in prison and 750 lashes for "mocking religion" after he discussed the Bible and praised Jews, a Saudi newspaper reported yesterday.
Al-Madina newspaper said secondary-school teacher Mohammad al-Harbi, who will be flogged in public, was taken to court by his colleagues and students.
He was charged with promoting a "dubious ideology, mocking religion, saying the Jews were right, discussing the Gospel and preventing students from leaving class to wash for prayer," the newspaper said.
Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, strictly upholds the austere Wahhabi school of Islam and bases its constitution on the Koran and the sayings of the prophet Muhammad. Public practice of any other religion is banned. [..]
Posted by Flanstein at 11:36 AM
The Queen of England is "an enemy of Islam"
J. Grant Swank, Jr.
2005/11/15
The Queen of England is "an enemy of Islam," according to Al-Qaeda. She, like all other infidels, must be slain.
According to "Mohammad Sidique Khan, ringleader of the London bombings that killed 52 commuters from Mohammad Sidique Khan, ringleader of the London bombings that killed 52 commuters," all non-Muslims must be slaughtered. That is reported by Abul Taher in Times On Line.
Khan states: "’It is very clear, brothers and sisters, that the path of jihad and the desire for martyrdom is embedded in the holy prophet and his beloved companions.
"’By preparing ourselves for this kind of work, we are guaranteeing ourselves for paradise and gaining the pleasure of Allah.
"’And by turning our back on this work, we are guaranteeing ourselves humiliation and the anger of Allah. Jihad is an obligation on every single one of us, men and women.’"
There you have it. It is the Islamic call to worldwide rule in the name of the Koran’s Allah. In order to rule, Muslims must have no planetary inhabitants but themselves, cowardly Muslims excluded by being executed along with the non-Muslims.
This Khan mandate is stated in the context of cowardly Muslims in England giving allegiance to the Queen rather than bowing down solely to the Islamic deity. That is abhorrent to the likes of Khan; therefore, the Muslims now residing in England must be taught a lesson. They must fall in line with killing off non-Muslims, which would include the Queen, and thus set up Islamic rule in all of England . The Queen must go. Allah must rule from her throne in her place.
Al-Qaeda has gone so far as to state that the Queen is the "severest enemy of Islam." This is broadcast in a video message "justifying the July bombings in London ."
Here and there across the globe, insane Muslims are corralling their own cultists into killing off the masses. These crazies then move into such Muslim nations as Jordan to press the point. They move into a Muslim wedding feast to underline their ambition as being supreme.
This is World War III. It is held in various unpredictable locales. It is seen through by warriors dressed in wedding attendees’ garb. It is a whole different mode of combat. Nevertheless, it is just as real and deadly.
Finally, with the Jordanian massacre, the Muslims leaders such as the Jordanian King are castigating their own. It is time, long overdue time. Far past real-time in real-life. Nevertheless, peace-peoples are happy that at last somebody belonging to the Islamic clique is speaking out against Islamic killers international. Time will tell if their voices increase in volume and number. Don’t count on it being a wild surge for peace. Nevertheless, in these confusing times anything is possible.
Obviously with the Queen of England under attack, every democracy leader of every freedom-based country is under attack. It is merely a matter of time until there is an assassination and then a number of them dominoing the hellish craze of Islamic slaughterers who thrill at blood in the streets.
That is why France is wise to inform the public that Muslim rioters will be deported promptly. The British lawmakers were amiss in not supporting British Prime Minister Tony Blair in his efforts to corral the social destroyers by putting them away for at least a 90-day period while investigations were undergoing.
The United States has been walking the fine line in not wanting to incite Muslim riots and at the same time having the President refer to Islam as "an ideology of hate." Blair has called it an "evil ideology." Yet on the other hand, Mr. Bush placed the Koran in the White House library for the first time at which time he invited Muslims to a dinner in the White House. Laura Bush met in another room with Muslim women to celebrate the occasion.
So it appears that national leaders don’t know what to do to stave off the Muslim killers. They placate them. They threaten them. They deport them. They tolerate them. They pat them on the back. They smile at them. They scowl at them.
All the while the Queen sits upon her throne — in danger.
Posted by Flanstein at 4:50 AM
Five good questions...
Some excellent questions posed of Muslims by radio host Dennis Prager.
(1) Why are you so quiet?
Since the first Israelis were targeted for death by Muslim terrorists blowing themselves up in the name of your religion and Palestinian nationalism, I have been praying to see Muslim demonstrations against these atrocities. Last week's protests in Jordan against the bombings, while welcome, were a rarity. What I have seen more often is mainstream Muslim spokesmen implicitly defending this terror on the grounds that Israel occupies Palestinian lands. We see torture and murder in the name of Allah, but we see no anti-torture and anti-murder demonstrations in the name of Allah.
There are a billion Muslims in the world. How is it possible that essentially none have demonstrated against evils perpetrated by Muslims in the name of Islam? This is true even of the millions of Muslims living in free Western societies. What are non-Muslims of goodwill supposed to conclude? When the Israeli government did not stop a Lebanese massacre of Palestinians in the Sabra and Chatilla refugee camps in Lebanon in 1982, great crowds of Israeli Jews gathered to protest their country's moral failing. Why has there been no comparable public demonstration by Palestinians or other Muslims to morally condemn Palestinian or other Muslim-committed terror?
(2) Why are none of the Palestinian terrorists Christian?
If Israeli occupation is the reason for Muslim terror in Israel, why do no Christian Palestinians engage in terror? They are just as nationalistic and just as occupied as Muslim Palestinians.
(3) Why is only one of the 47 Muslim-majority countries a free country?
According to Freedom House, a Washington-based group that promotes democracy, of the world's 47 Muslim countries, only Mali is free. Sixty percent are not free, and 38% are partly free. Muslim-majority states account for a majority of the world's "not free" states. And of the 10 "worst of the worst," seven are Islamic states. Why is this?
(4) Why are so many atrocities committed and threatened by Muslims in the name of Islam?
Young girls in Indonesia were recently beheaded by Muslim murderers. Last year, Muslims — in the name of Islam — murdered hundreds of schoolchildren in Russia. While reciting Muslim prayers, Islamic terrorists take foreigners working to make Iraq free and slaughter them. Muslim daughters are murdered by their own families in the thousands in "honor killings." And the Muslim government in Iran has publicly called for the extermination of Israel.
(5) Why do countries governed by religious Muslims persecute other religions?
No church or synagogue is allowed in Saudi Arabia. The Taliban destroyed some of the greatest sculptures of the ancient world because they were Buddhist. Sudan's Islamic regime has murdered great numbers of Christians.
Instead of confronting these problems, too many of you deny them. Muslims call my radio show to tell me that even speaking of Muslim or Islamic terrorists is wrong. After all, they argue, Timothy McVeigh is never labeled a "Christian terrorist." As if McVeigh committed his terror as a churchgoing Christian and in the name of Christ, and as if there were Christian-based terror groups around the world.
Posted by Flanstein at 9:50 PM
2 million fewer potential jihadis
While I'm an agnostic and view all religion with the same jaundiced eye, Orthodox Christians are at least taught to love each other. That's opposed to the islamic perspective of insulting and killing non-muslims. Religion of peace dontchaknow...
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Interfax
2005/11/02
Moscow, November 1, Interfax - The number of ethnic Muslims in Russia who adopted Christianity is 2 million, while the number of the Orthodox who have been converted to Islam is only 2,5 thousand, stated Roman Silantyev, executive secretary of the Inter-religious Council in Russia.
‘Christianization happens not so much as a result of some purposeful missionary activity (in which only Protestants are engaged) as under the influence of Russian culture which has express Christian roots’, Silantyev said in a interview published this week by the Itogi weekly.
According Silantyev, the converts are predominantly Muslims by birth, while ‘those who really confess Islamic values and attend mosque on a regular basis rarely change their faith’.
‘The assimilation of ethnic and religious minorities is an inevitable process in any society. In Russia it is accelerated due to extremist activities’, the Islamic researcher believes.
For instance, he says, as a result of what happened in Beslan, the proportion of Muslims in North Ossetia has decreased at least by 30%, while in Beslan itself, where Muslims had comprised from 30 to 40% of the population, their number has decreased at least by half.
‘As even Muslim sources confirm, after each terrorist action, thousands and may be even dozens of thousands of ethnic Muslims adopt baptism’, Silantyev stated.
At the same time, the expert accounts for the small number of ethnic Orthodox people who have adopted Islam for the last 15 years, among other things, by the fact that ‘for some reason Russians seem to be more willing to join sects than Islam’.
Posted by Flanstein at 4:20 AM
Allah's minions execute 57
Suicide Bombers Kill 57 at Jordan Hotels.
AMMAN, Jordan - Suicide bombers carried out nearly simultaneous attacks on three U.S.-based hotels in the Jordanian capital Wednesday night, killing at least 57 people and wounding 115 in what appeared to be an al-Qaida assault on an Arab kingdom with close ties to the United States.
The explosions hit the Grand Hyatt, Radisson SAS and Days Inn hotels just before 9 p.m. One of the blasts took place inside a wedding hall where 300 guests were celebrating — joined by a man strapped with explosives who had infiltrated the crowd. Black smoke rose into the night, and wounded victims stumbled from the hotels.
“We thought it was fireworks for the wedding but I saw people falling to the ground,” said Ahmed, a wedding guest at the five-star Radisson who did not give his surname. “I saw blood. There were people killed. It was ugly.”
Jordan’s deputy prime minister, Marwan Muasher, said nobody claimed responsibility but that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian-born leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, was a “prime suspect.”
Posted by Flanstein at 7:32 AM
Scumbag muslim mom...
TORONTO (CP) - The mother of a Canadian teenager charged with murder and held at Guantanamo Bay accused Americans of acting like gods Tuesday and slammed Ottawa for doing nothing to help her son.
In an interview with The Canadian Press, Maha Elsamnah lashed out at both Washington and Canada's federal government over the detention and treatment of her Toronto-born son, Omar Khadr, 19, who faces the death penalty if convicted by a special U.S. military tribunal. "The Americans are gods now," Elsamnah said from her east-end Toronto home.
(this from Jew-hating, Osama-loving sack of islamic crap. Why would we give a fig for what this dung beetle thought about anything?)
"The Americans can do anything. They make the law. Nobody can tell them anything. Nobody can disagree with them."
Khadr was just 15 when he allegedly threw a hand grenade that killed an American soldier and wounded another during a firefight with Taliban fighters in Afghanistan in July 2002.
He arrived in Guantanamo Bay as a 16-year-old, the youngest enemy combatant detained there, and has been held at the base on Cuba amid accusations from supporters that he has been tortured.
"The Canadians have not been trying anything," said Elsamnah. "Ottawa is allied to the Americans, so what do you expect?"
(I expect the Americans to give this little jihadi due process - which is a lot more than muslims give to their enemies...)
Posted by Flanstein at 2:47 PM
What do rioting muslims want?
Someone on my blog referred to the latest muslim uprising in Paris as a "stupidfada" - essentially imitating the lust for violence predominant in Palestine. The question is, what do French muslims want? What will make them stop rioting? Here’s a short list - feel free to add your own:
• Clitorectomy’s for all muslim girls should their parents request them (paid for by the French medical system of course);
• the right to wear the burka or head scarf wherever and whenever they want;
• the extension of the Islamic territory across the globe, and the establishment of a worldwide ‘caliphate' founded on Shari'a law;
• the right to gang-rape non-muslim women and girls or muslim women in their territory who refuse to properly cover up;
• the removal of all non-islamic churches and religious artifacts in their territory – they are offensive to them;
• halal food in every restaurant in France;
• the cessation of the wine industry;
• islam taught in every school
• tax breaks for muslims;
• ???
Posted by Flanstein at 11:43 AM
Muslims pour gas on disabled - light fire...
From the "why am I not surprised" category - Muslims rampaging in the Paris suburb of Sevran poured gasoline on a handicapped woman and set her on fire.
A handicapped woman was doused with petrol and set on fire by youths during another night of rioting in Paris.
The 56-year-old suffered third degree burns to 20% of her body in the attack.
Witnesses said a youth poured petrol over the woman and then threw a Molotov cocktail on to the bus she was travelling on in the suburb of Sevran.
Other passengers were able to flee but she was unable to escape because of her disabilities.
Religion of peace dontchaknow...
Posted by Flanstein at 12:53 PM
Are all muslims Jew-haters?
The twaddle below was taken from an American muslims blog complaining that the world recognises the Holocaust. And this sick fuck claims he's a "moderate".
I think this is unjust. A "Holocaust Day"? As if the slaughter of Jews deserves special recognition that the slaughter of American Indians does not? How about Armenians, Bosnian Muslims, or Tutsis in Rwanda? Why does this one incident in human history always get special recognition? Wouldn't have a "Anti-Genocide Day" have been a better idea?
I know, some people out there might call me an anti-Semite for voicing such ideas and thoughts, but so be it. To many out there ANY words, written or spoken that are critical of Israel or Jews are anti-Semitic. But this isn't the case and I reject this idea.
The Holocaust has become and industry for certain groups and people. They use it to make money, they use to silence people, they use it to bully people, political parties, and in certain cases entire nations. To this day the German people are stilling paying reparations and providing military and political support to Jews and the people of Israel. Why? How many Germans alive today had anything to do with the Nazi death machine and why should people not involved be required to give into what is nothing more than collective punishment?
I am COMPLETELY against a "Holocaust" day and would only support a day that does not single out the trials of a single group over another.
Posted by Flanstein at 8:12 AM
8 year old boy - tortured by islam...
As if the sick fucks that make up the ROP couldn't get any lower - along comes these disturbing photos of a young boy who had been caught stealing bread in Iran. Sharia demands punishment and the bearded muslim asswipe seen here can't contain his glee as he slowly rolls a jeep over this childs arm.
The stink of islam strikes again...
Posted by Flanstein at 11:44 AM
Arab States Silent on Iran's Remarks (BIG surprise...)
Seems that the muslim street has once again greeted Jew hatred with its usual silence. Islam, the religion of hate...
Arab States Silent on Iran's Remarks
By ARTHUR MAX, Associated Press Writer
Thu Oct 27, 5:52 PM ET
CAIRO, Egypt - Arab governments remained silent Thursday as international condemnation grew over a call by Iran's new president for Israel to be destroyed.
Posted by Flanstein at 6:57 AM
The west is surprised when muslims are honest about their Jew hatred...
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call for Israel to be "wiped off the map" has drawn widespread condemnation from Israel, Europe and North America.
The UK, France, Spain and Canada are summoning Iranian diplomats to demand an explanation for the remark.
Israel's Vice-Prime Minister Shimon Peres called for Iran to be expelled from the United Nations.
The White House said the comment showed the US was right to be concerned about Iran's nuclear programme.
Washington suspects Tehran is trying to develop nuclear weapons, but Iran says its programme is for peaceful purposes only.
Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world
Mr Ahmadinejad made his comments at a conference in Tehran entitled The World without Zionism, (aka the world without Jews...)the official Irna news agency reported.
Western governments are bound to see it as further proof that Iran's hardline president is disinclined to curb his country's controversial nuclear programme, the BBC's diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall says.
They may hope that a co-ordinated diplomatic protest will help step up the pressure, she says.
An International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report last month said questions about Iran's nuclear programme remained unanswered, despite an intensive investigation.
The UK, France, Germany and the US are pressing Iran to provide more access to its nuclear plans.
'Sickening'
The UK's Foreign Office described the comments as "deeply disturbing and sickening".
"We have seen in Israel today the horrible reality of the violence he (Mr Ahmadinejad) is praising," a spokesman said, referring to a Palestinian suicide attack on Wednesday in the Israeli town of Hadera that killed five people and injured up to 30 others.
Posted by Flanstein at 7:06 AM
More "peace" from islam...
An Egyptian Coptic nun lies on the ground Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005, after a Muslim student stabbed her at the St. Gergis church in the Mediterranean port city of Alexandria, Egypt, amid tensions over a theater performance considered offensive by Muslims, a police official said. (AP)
A young man stabbed a nun and a man in a church in the Egyptian city of Alexandria on Wednesday, police sources in the city said.
The man shouted "God is great" when he burst into St. George's Coptic church in the city on Egypt's northern coast.
Some 1,000 Muslims last week held a protest outside the church because they said it had put on a play which was offensive to Islam.
And their response to this play? Knife a nun...
Posted by Flanstein at 8:29 AM
Islamic sack of crap - version 8,967...
Imran Patel, a fanatic who has had arms training in Pakistan, was cornered by a team of 20 anti-terrorist officers at 8.45pm and taken to Leeds police station for questioning. He had claimed he was asked to join the attack on the capital by his pal, terror cell leader Mohammad Sadique Khan.
Before the July atrocity, Khan and the other London suicide bombers —Shehzad Tanweer, 22, Jermaine Lindsay, 19, and Hasib Hussain, 18— met at Patel's home in Dewsbury, West Yorks. They watched extremist Jihad (holy war) videos calling for Muslims to launch a holy war.
And they held discussions about their "mission" to carry out terrorist attacks in Britain.
But even though he refused their invitation to join them on their sick mission—52 people died and 700 were injured in the attack on London's transport system—he did not tip off police about their intentions.
He says he did not want to see Muslim "brothers" jailed. He would rather see dead infidels, their bodies strewn about the subway like so much garbge. religion of peace my ASS!
Patel also claims he would never attack a target in Britain—though he would willingly do so abroad.
But he told a News of the World reporter that he knows at least half a dozen other Muslims from Dewsbury who have had training in camps in Pakistan and are now back in Britain. He says he is friendly with another young Muslim who is close to launching an atrocity here.
Patel, in his early thirties, added: "He is definitely ready.
Posted by Flanstein at 1:45 PM
Telling truth to George W.
Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald reveals what he will tell the President of the United States when George calls him in, offers him a sparkling water, and asks him for some advice:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008667.php#more
"What serious advice by the numbers would you give the president as to how to deal with the ever encroaching threat of fundamental Islam?" -- a question to me from a posting at Jihad Watch
1. Education: Make sure that the 5-10 most relevant books are read by generals, other officers, and men -- beginning with those at the War College. And make sure that those in the Department of Justice, civilian employees in the Department of Defense, upper-level employees in the Department of Health and Human Services, and members of Congress and state and local government are properly educated on the subject of Islam. Stop misrepresenting Islam as a doctrine that encourages "peace" and "tolerance." Stop continuing to insist that those who conduct Jihad are doing so despite Islam, and not quite properly prompted by, and in the name of, and in the spirit of, Islam.
Attempt on every occasion to raise the matter of what Islam teaches and how Muslims intend to deal with these teachings, or not to, at every meeting with Muslim ambassadors and leaders. Never leave it out of any speech -- and make sure that from the top down, everyone is echoing the same sentiments, asking the same questions, wondering the same things aloud.
2. Establish a War Board which, once it has been clearly understood that the menace threatening all Infidels everywhere is properly called a "Jihad," then that War Board will seek to identify and bring to the attention of Infidels everywhere the various instruments of that Jihad. While military means are part of Jihad, whether acts of terrorism or battlefield combat (qital), they are not the most effective or most threatening instruments of Jihad. These others include "wealth" (i.e. oil revenues), "pen, speech" (propaganda), and the latest weapon, the demographic weapon. It is important to produce evidence from Muslim press, radio, television, and websites, that there is a clear understanding among Muslims of how, for example, "demographic conquest" can -- and has in the past in various parts of the world -- succeed in islamizing a place.
3. Establish a Propaganda Unit whose aim will be to make clear to non-Arab Muslims that within Islam there is an Arab supremacist ideology that is not only political (so that non-Arab Muslims are always enrolled in whatever political demands the Arabs make, but not vice-versa), but cultural and linguistic: the taking of Arab names, the turning five times a day in the direction of Arabia, the insistence that the model for all mankind, for all time, is Mohammad, a seventh-century Arab, and in addition, his Companions whose mores and manners were those of 7th-century Arabs, so that Kurds, Berbers, Persians, Malays and others are made to forget, or despise, as much as possible, their own history, language, and culture. There should be no let-up in attempts to bring the real nature of Islam home to these Muslims.
Another part of this propaganda unit would emphasize the way in which Islam stunts civilizational development and individual mental growth. The habit of mental submission, the system of Total Regulation (of what you eat, of what you wear, of how your hair is done, of how you wash yourself, of absolutely everything under the sun) and, in addition, the setting up of the Qur'an as containing all of Science, so that in the end human curiosity is stifled, and one is discouraged -- forbidden, in fact -- from exercising free and skeptical inquiry needs to be noted. Mothers need to realize that Islam will hold their children back. Some will ignore this, but many will not.
The many prohibitions in Islam, on music, on painting of living creatures, on sculpture, on much else, also needs to be given attention, and emphasis.
If Islam can be seen as an enemy of human freedom and thought -- which it is -- it will be easier to cause those who might otherwise be inclined to be tolerant, those for whom that art and that science and that mental freedom are supposed to be important, to enroll in the anti-Jihad. That anti-Jihad, of course, needs every conceivable recruit, however those recruits may find one another to leave something to be desired.
4. Identify places where natural fissues within Islam can be exploited at little cost and with great benefit. Obvious example: Iraq. Other examples: black Africa, where the treatment of black Africans by Arabs should evoke, and can be made to evoke, the centuries of the Arab slave trade. That trade began earlier than the European slave trade, and ended, most unwillingly, later under European pressure. It has more or less been re-begun wherever Arab Muslims have been free from such pressure or prying, in the Sudan, in Mali, in Mauritania, and even, one has reason to believe, in Saudi Arabia. It needs to be constantly emphasized that slavery cannot be outlawed in Islam, that it is part of Islam, that its victims have been black Africans and Slavs in south and eastern Europe, and people catpured on raids in Western Europe. This is not a case of blackening an image, but merely of presenting the true face of what has been so carefully hidden from view.
5. Do everything possible to unite Infidels everywhere -- all non-Muslims, some of whom have had more immediate or recent experience of Muslim rule, as Hindus in India, and whose historical experience (60-70 million killed by Muslims) could help in changing the natural tendency toward appeasement of so many Western Europeans.
6. Keep all major weapons systems out of the hands of Muslim governments -- no matter how seemingly friendly or "moderate" that government may, at the moment, profess to be. No exceptions, for "moderates" can always become "immoderate."
7. Keep Turkey out of the E.U., for its presence would guarantee the future islamization of Europe -- which must be stopped.
8. Seek ways to militarily reverse Muslim encroachments, wherever results can be surely achieved at little cost, and where the benefits would be great -- as would happen if the Americans were to seize the southern Sudan and Darfur, only in order to hold a referendum on indpendence from the northern Arab Muslims, and not to bring "democracy."
9. Work to reverse the Russian suspicion and resentment of the United States, and continually point out to the Russians that it is they who have the most to fear from Iranian or other Muslim possession of nuclear weapons, unless Russia is prepared not only to surrender the entire Caucasus, but to throw both Georgia and Armenia to the Muslim wolves. In the end, Russia itself, given its own birth-rate, and that of the Muslims within it, has to begin to grasp that this is not a mere matter of swarthy southerners -- the "chornyie" who arouse Russian suspicions -- not a matter of skin color but of ideology: a matter of Muslims, whether swarthy or white as the snow in the lands of the Evenks.
10. Understand how very useless is the concept of the "moderate" Muslim -- because it is impossible to know when someone's "moderation" is real or feigned. Experience shows that Muslim dissimulation -- whether called taqiyya, kitman, or simply dissimulation -- comes naturally. Also, by his mere presence a "moderate" Muslim can swell the ranks, and hence the perceived power, of Muslims and thereby help even the "immoderates" obtain their demands on craven Infidel politicians. And also because even the "moderate" can be transformed, sometimes very quickly, into the "immoderate" Muslim, or can have children who themselves will turn out, in a seeking-your-roots or disaffected-from-the-West attitude, to become "immoderate."
11. Work to stop further penetration and settlement behind what Muslims themselves regard as enemy lines. This requires not a general attack on immigration, but specific moves to limit Muslim immigration. This can only take place if the Idols of the Age, about Diversity and Everyone Wants the Same Thing and Tolerance is Always the Only Conceivable Policy, are undermined, mocked, and shown up as the dangers they are.
Posted by Flanstein at 8:53 AM
"Moderate" muslims support murder
By Sarah Rainsford
BBC News, Istanbul
A survey by a university in Turkey has shown almost 40% support for the practice of "honour killing".
The results come days after a court in Istanbul gave a life sentence for the murder of a girl by her brothers for giving birth to a child out of wedlock.
Turkish law, which used to be lenient on "honour crimes", was heavily revised as part of the country's preparation for EU accession proceedings.
Turkey has started talks with the EU but is not expected to join for years.
The survey was conducted in the conservative south-eastern city of Diyarbakir.
Disfigured
It questioned 430 people, most of them men. When asked the appropriate punishment for a woman who has committed adultery, 37% replied she should be killed.
Twenty-five percent said that she deserved divorce, and 21% that her nose or ears should be cut off.
The survey group was small but the results are a reminder that "honour killing" - a practice where women are murdered for allegedly bringing shame on their family - still has significant support in parts of Turkey.
There are no reliable statistics on how many women die this way, but Turkey has made major strides fighting such violence.
Research panel
Since the penal code was reformed last summer a man can no longer claim he was provoked as his defence. That used to lead to light sentences.
But last Friday a court in Istanbul sent a man to prison for life for murdering his sister in her hospital bed.
He shot her for giving birth to a child outside marriage.
And there is evidence the authorities here are committed to taking the reforms further.
A commission has just been established in parliament to research the whole issue for the first time. Its 12 members are expected to report back in December.
Posted by Flanstein at 7:48 AM
More islamic lunacy...
From Jihad Watch:
More Ramadan peace and tolerance as a Pakistani mullah threatens to burn down a refugee camp rather than see earthquake survivors eating during the day during Ramadan. From "Feeding the survivors during Ramadan," from the BBC, with thanks to Tom:
Feeding 1,200 people with no kitchen requires a bit of preparation.
You need to light fires, boil rice and cook meat. It takes several hours. You have to get going in advance.
But one of the local mullahs did not see it that way and he paid Mohammed Mustafa a visit.
"What are you doing?" he shouted. "Don't you know it's Ramadan now? This is just not permitted.
"You can't cook food during the day. It's against Islam. Stop or I'll burn this place down - your tents, your pots, everything."
Posted by Flanstein at 7:19 AM
Dutch ban burka
The 'time of cosy tea-drinking' with Muslims is over, says the minister who would ban the burka (ROBERT VOS/EPA)
THE Netherlands is likely to become the first country in Europe to ban the burka, under government proposals that would bring in some of the toughest curbs on Muslim clothing in the world.
The country’s hardline Integration Minister, Rita Verdonk, known as the Iron Lady for her series of tough anti-immigration measures, told Parliament that she was going to investigate where and when the burka should be banned. The burka, traditional clothing in some Islamic societies, covers a woman’s face and body, leaving only a strip of gauze for the eyes.
Mrs Verdonk gave warning that the “time of cosy tea-drinking” with Muslim groups had passed and that natives and immigrants should have the courage to be critical of each other. She recently cancelled a meeting with Muslim leaders who refused to shake her hand because she was a woman.
The proposals are likely to win the support of Parliament because of the expected backing by right-wing parties. But they have caused outrage among Muslim and human rights groups, who say that the Government is pandering to the far Right.
Mrs Verdonk admitted that a complete ban on the garment would be legally tricky because of freedom of religion legislation. However, she said that she would prohibit the garments “in specific situations” on grounds of public safety. The ban is likely to be enforced in shops, public buildings, cinemas, train and bus stations and airports, as well as on trains and buses.
The Netherlands has become preoccupied by Islamic terrorism after the investigation into the murder of the film-maker Theo van Gogh uncovered a network of Muslim extremists dedicated to destroying the country. Attention has turned to the burka because police authorities have become concerned that a terrorist could use one for concealment.
A government spokesman said: “We want to investigate when, how, in which places the burka should be banned. It is a safety measure — you don’t see who is in it.” The Government cites as a precedent existing football legislation, which bans people from entering football grounds covering their faces in scarves.
Yassim Hertog, a vice-president of the Muslim School Boards Union, said: “Can you prohibit someone from wearing a certain type of dress? They are trying to test what a government can forbid, and how far you can go trampling on people’s rights. They want to show all these Dutch citizens who are sick and tired of all these ‘mutant’ citizens, this is where we draw the line — get normal.”
Muslim groups insist that only a few dozen women in the Netherlands wear the burka, and that the ban is a distraction. The Muslims and Government Contact Body said: “Only a handful of Muslims actually wear burkas. Let us focus our energy on what we have in common. This is not a big problem.”
Last year two Muslim women lost a court case against their college that had banned them from wearing burkas during their social work and childcare course. The judge backed the college in its claim that children had to be able to see who was caring for them, prompting the women to drop the course.
Famile Arslan, the women’s lawyer, told The Times:
“Women have a very strong opinion about the burka. If you ban it they won’t leave the house. It is not a good way to integrate and emancipate Muslim women. Everything Muslims do is criticised by Verdonk. She is doing it to get votes. She doesn’t care about Muslims and their problems.”
Mrs Verdonk made the proposals after Geert Wilders, the right-wing MP, requested the ban. Mr Wilders claimed that the garment was unfriendly towards women and a threat to security.
Baroness Sarah Ludford MEP, on the European Parliament’s Civil Liberties Committee, who has been active in opposing bans on the hijab, or scarf, said that there were no arguments for banning the burka. “If there is a genuine belief that someone under a burka is a terrorist, then you invoke stop-and-search laws on the grounds of reasonable suspicion.”
The Netherlands would become the first European country to ban the wearing of the burka in public situations, although there are already some local bans. Last year several Belgian towns, including Antwerp and Ghent, banned the wearing of the burka in public, and recently started issuing £100 spot fines for breaking the municipal ordinance. Several towns in Italy, including Como, have invoked legislation introduced by Mussolini that bans hiding one’s face in public to impose fines on burka-wearers. France and several regions of Germany have followed Turkey and Tunisia in banning the wearing of the hijab, which leaves the face visible, in public buildings, most controversially in schools.
Posted by Flanstein at 9:46 AM