Reuters:
September 1, 2005
Muslims all over the world are today donating money to help the millions affected by the hurricane in the US. Paying back American generosity for the tsunami effort where Americans donated hundreds of millions of dollars, muslims worldwide are digging deep.(sarcasm off)
Muslim pricks only think of themselves and only donate to causes that help other mmuslims. They would rather shave their beards off then give money, time or expertise to help infidels. Check out the muslim blogs - cause they are mostly silent. Immoral fuckers...
Muslims donate to destitute Americans!
Posted by Flanstein at 9:03 PM
Australia has a backbone!

SYDNEY (AFP) - Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law should get out of Australia, a senior government minister has said, hinting that some radical clerics might be asked to leave.
Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament, Treasurer Peter Costello told national television late Tuesday.
“If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you,” said Costello, who is seen as heir-apparent to Prime Minister John Howard.
“I’d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false.
“There’s only one law in Australia — it’s the law that’s made by the parliament of Australia and enforced by our courts. There is no second law.
“If you can’t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practices it, perhaps, then, that’s a better option,” Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he replied: “Where a person has dual citizenship, it might be possible to ask them to exercise that other citizenship. That might be a live possibility.”
Posted by Flanstein at 8:38 AM
Fun with Islam!
Three strangers at the Great Falls airport are awaiting their flights.
One is a Native American on his way to Helena for a statewide Indian Pow-Wow.
Another a ranch hand on his way to Billings Montana for a stock show.
The third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived, and on his way to study engineering at Montana Tech.
To pass the time they strike up a conversation on recent events, and the discussion drifts to their diverse cultures.
Soon the westerners learn that the Arab is a devout radical Muslim, and believes his people are justified in their 'holy' war.
The conversation falls into an uneasy lull. The cowpoke leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face.
The wind outside blows and blows and the old windsock flaps but no plane comes.
Finally, the Native American clears his throat and softly he speaks:" Once, my people were many, now we are few."
The radical Muslim raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?"
The Cowboy shifts the toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson Cowboy Hat says, "That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet boy."
Posted by Flanstein at 8:28 AM
What's wrong with islam?
When you meet her on a pleasant Friday evening in Toronto, it's hard to believe that certain people want Ayaan Hirsi Ali dead. She is a delicately built woman with an unfailingly courteous manner. But even here, on a visit to one of the world's safest cities, she's surrounded by a phalanx of bodyguards in body armour. To certain Muslims, this beautiful, fearless black woman is the Salman Rushdie of our times. To them, she is a blasphemer, an apostate, a menace to the faith — and it would be an honour to kill her.
"I am here because I think the rights of Muslim women in the West are threatened," she says. The threat comes from two directions. One is a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam, which declares that women must submit to both God and men. The other is the Western multiculturalist trap, which declares that group rights are more important than individual rights, and that all cultures are equal.
It is this trap that Europe's secular democracies find themselves in today. And it is this trap that has led Ontario to open the door to private sharia (Islamic law) courts, which can now be used to settle family disputes for any Muslims who want to use them.
Ms. Hirsi Ali, 35, is a Dutch politician who has become famous for her fight against Islam's oppression of women. She says Ontario's decision to allow sharia courts is a terrible precedent and a disaster for Muslim women. "Canadian law," she says, "is now offering some Canadian men the opportunity to oppress us." She believes in the strict separation of religion and state. She believes that the religious law of any faith — Muslim, Christian, Jewish — invariably oppresses women. And she believes that the promised safeguards, such as the right to appeal any decision to a secular court, are a load of hooey for women who live, as many Muslim women do, in a closed society. "What is freedom of choice when you depend on your family and clan for everything?"
Posted by Flanstein at 8:22 AM
Islamic butchery in India
Jihad Watch's Hugh Fitzgerald sheds the light of truth on another subject about which there is a great deal of misinformation and disinformation: the treatment of Hindus (and Sikhs) by Muslims in India.
In sheer numbers, no group of Believers has suffered from Islam like the Hindus. It is amazing that few Indian-Americans, and few Indo-British, seem to know the history of their own ancestors and of what the Muslim conquest -- or perhaps one should say the Early Conquest and then the Later Conquest -- did to India, which Naipaul accurately described as a "wounded civilization." K. S. Lal writes of the 60-70 million Hindu victims murdered by their Muslim masters. When those Muslim masters ceased the mass killings, it was not out of any sense of mercy, but only to extort the jizya from people who would now be treated in a manner akin to Jews and Christians: dhimmis who would be allowed to live, but would be subject to a series of economic, political, and social disabilities that guaranteed a permanent status of degradation, humiliation, and physical insecurity.
There are those who are morally indifferent to how the Mughal conquerors ruled, or to what happened to the Hindus (or the Sikhs). One thinks of the deplorable William Dalrymple (who is apparently not deplorable enough for the TLS to cease assigning him books to review on the subject) in his popular accounts of the luxury and love-intrigue at Mughal courts, or that other, more scholarly apologist for Islam, Francis Robinson. A number of factors have contributed to the indifference of Hindu intellectuals in India, and outside India, to the real nature of Islam. For the first, there is the common desire to ape the attitudes of so-called intellectuals in London and New York. It would not do, it does not do, to be too exercised about Islam. And of course, all things pertaining to Hindutva, to a sense of Indian nationalism connected to Hinduism, is mocked in the world, though it offers not the slightest threat or menace (unlike Islam) to anyone – anyone, that is, but the Muslims who continue to procreate and "gain market-share" as a percentage of the population in India, even as they harry or persecute or murder the Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan and Bangladesh and, whenever they can, in Kashmir and elsewhere in India.
The astounding ignorance of Indian history that one finds in the Western world, and the supplanting of that history by the ooohing and aahing over Mughal emperors, should stick in everyone's craw. And some sympathetic attention to the claims of Hindus to Hindustan, and to the other non-Muslim populations in that most naturally tolerant of civilizations, should be given in Western universities and in the Western media. Even those newspapers in the Western world that are aimed at an Indian immigrant audience tend to pull their punches about Islam, or perhaps ignore the subject altogether (save in a few cases where the readership is definitely Hindu or Hindu and Sikh). This is done, one supposes, because the newspaper owners do not wish to alienate Muslim Indians in the West who might also read the paper, even if it means ignoring the major issue of our time and possibly of our century: the issue of the world-wide Jihad, from which Indian civilization suffered, and from which Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan, Bangladesh, India itself (including Indian Kashmir), and now in Great Britain, also suffer. Hindus and Sikhs in Britain, having come to the West with its freedoms and opportunities, and who once here have not given any occasion for alarm or offense, now find themselves, thousands of miles from India, subject yet again to the implacable hatred and menace of Islam.
Whenever an Indian (Hindu or Sikh) intellectual becomes known outside of India, he is quick to demonstrate his abhorrence of what is called "communalism" (which always means: those silly Hindus, and Sikhs, who may be too much attached to their own traditions and faiths, and of course are to be regarded with lack of sympathy should they dare to demonstrate any lack of sympathy themselves for Islam). One can see the phenomenon, for example, in the attitudes and rhetoric of Amartya Sen, who has written about the "democracy" within Islam. Sen’s is an entirely ahistorical piece that makes one wish to insist that this particular shoemaker should stick to his last profession, though now he appears to have decided to make shoes for the whole wide world.
Readers should go to the historians of India -- K. S. Lal, Sir Jahundath Sarkar, those who contributed to the 19th-century volume edited by the Englishmen Dowson and Elliot -- as well as to the modern non-Indian scholars Koenraad Elst and Francois Gautier. They will be surprised what they will learn about the history of India. They might even begin with that book with the old-fashioned title "The Wonder That Was India," about pre-Islamic India, written by A. L. Basham. Others might choose to look at the grim list of Hindu temples, thousands of them, destroyed by Muslims, a list compiled by Sita Ram Goel (another author, who along with Ram Swarup is regarded by many Bright Young Indian Things as simply beyond the pale -- and they make this judgment without ever having bothered to read his works), and published in two volumes.
Among those of Indian descent well-known to the outside world, and who cannot be ignored as "Hindu fanatics" (a term thrown around a good deal, even though the most fanatical of Hindus would not come close, in the menace that his worldview would present to non-Hindus, to what the mildest and most "moderate" of Muslims presents to non-Muslims), the only one to tell the truth about Islam has been V. S. Naipaul.
There should be many more.
Posted by Flanstein at 3:12 PM
Victor Davis Hanson: Keep Quiet And Listen! The words of radical Islam speak for themselves

"You will find that the Jews were behind all the civil strife in this world. The Jews are behind the suffering of the nations.”
When and where did that venom come from?
This last May — and out of the hateful mouth of a prominent Palestinian cleric, Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris. He was broadcast on a Palestinian Authority station.
The televised Sheik finished with an even more frightening thought: “The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews — even the stones and trees which were harmed by them…The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew.”
Nothing could be clearer than that promise of another holocaust — and promised explicitly on state-run Palestinian television, a public megaphone of the Palestinian Authority, itself the beneficiary of past and apparently promised future American financial aid.
Still, don’t hold your breath that the passive/aggressive sheik is about to lead a pan-Islamic army a few miles across the border to “finish off every Jew,” since he might then end up like Sheik Ahmed Yassin, whose threats of death earned him instead an early paradise.
Throughout this war we have an understandable, if ethnocentric, habit of ignoring what our enemies actually say. Instead we chatter on, don’t listen, and in self-absorbed fashion impart our own motives for their hatred. We live on the principles of the Enlightenment and so worship our god Reason, thus assuming that even our adversaries accept such rational protocols as their own.
So they talk on and on of beheading, suicide bombing, another holocaust, and blowing thousands of us up, while we snooze, now and again waking in the midst of a war to regurgitate Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, flushed Korans, the abusive Patriot Act, and the latest quip of Donald Rumsfeld.
But again keep quiet, and listen to radical Islam.
Take the August 4 declaration of al Qaeda’s second in command, Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri. He promises even “more destruction” for London, and tells us precisely why.
Many in the West assume that those mass murders were payback for the United Kingdom’s presence in Iraq, even though its troops are mostly confined to non-Wahhabi areas in the south.
But no, the Dr. instead lists a number of grievances beyond Iraq that justify his terrorist cadres murdering innocents. One complaint, for example, is “Stopping the robbing of our oil and resources.”
Examine that gripe carefully.
Oil is now at record highs. I just filled up with regular gas at $2.89 on a California interstate. It costs the Middle East about $3-4 a barrel to pump petroleum that was discovered, developed, and marketed for the Gulf autocracies through hated Western expertise — and is now selling at over $60. Despite Zawahiri’s rants, billions of poor the world over are being price gauged to enrich a Muslim world flush with petrodollars.
And some of those obscene profits have ended up in coffers of Zawahiri himself. Indeed, his al Qaeda blackmailers depend on recycled petrodollars from Gulf State sheikdoms. Nothing either he or bin Laden has ever done themselves warrants the type of cash that flowed into al Qaeda’s banks — a con operation that extorted oil dollars from autocratic price gougers who in turn got their revenues largely from inventive and productive Indians, Chinese, and Westerners.
Zawahiri next went on to cite, “Stopping your support for the corrupt and corrupting leaders.”
Did the terrorist Dr. read the text of Condoleezza Rice’s June 20 address in Cairo? There she rightly repudiated past American realpolitik that blinked at Arab dictatorships, and then prodded Arab governments to democratize?
Or maybe it was precisely that fresh support for democracy that grieves Zawahiri?
For clarification of al Qaeda’s ideas about democracy, we can turn to Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, the spiritual leader of the terrorists in Iraq. He recently warned that, “We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy and those who follow this wrong ideology.”
That pathological hatred of democracy was also amplified in the latest al Qaeda video of August 10: “Democracy, human rights, and freedom are all but hollow illusions, with which they tranquilize inhabitants.” “
Western critics of America’s attempt to introduce democratic reconstruction in Iraq should ask why al Qaeda is so furious at the effort. The answer is clear: Radical Islam can no longer blame the United States for propping up dictators, but instead is terrified that there is a third choice — the people’s freedom — between creepy strongmen and even creepier pre-modern theocrats.
But back again to the good Dr. Zawahiri, who had still more complaints beyond oil and corrupt leaders that explain why he, of course, plans on more murdering of Westerners.
“What you have you seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of all the media blackout, are only the losses of the initial clashes.”
And we know precisely what were our perceived pre-September 11 wrongs that caused “New York and Washington” since Dr Zawahiri’s boss, bin Laden himself, spelled them out in a 1998 fatwa.
“The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip.”
Note that bin Laden omits any reference to American efforts to save Muslim Kuwait (a war in which in vain he also volunteered to fight against Saddam Hussein), to save Balkan Muslims (which his own mujahadeen had failed utterly to do), or to stop the Soviet killing of Afghan Muslims (a war in which his resistance counted on American arms to save his fellow Muslims).
The constant theme of this envious and insecure motor mouth? Americans saved Muslims, while bin Laden’s minions talked big, but couldn’t do much against much stronger Baathist Iraqis, godless Soviets, and nationalist Serbs.
September 11 was the promised answer to bin Laden’s fatwa. Later when America withdrew all troops from the land of Mecca, his death promises increased rather than ceased.
Remember that Dr. Zawahiri lists both Afghanistan (his former headquarters) and Iraq in the same breath as reasons for his attacks to come. We in our civil discord tend to distinguish the two theaters; al Qaeda in its unity does not.
So as we try to assess the causes of Islamists’ venom toward the West, it seems wiser to listen to what they say rather than what we say they say.
If we would do that, we would conclude that the hatred of radical Islam is fed by envy, frustration, and pride — and thus existential: They despise Americans for who we are.
That’s why al Qaeda must constantly find new grievances, whether the West Bank, Israel itself, Jews, oil prices, troops in Saudi Arabia, Oil-for-Food, Afghanistan, or Iraq.
Indeed, the latest two-hour training video is little more than cut-and-paste from the Michael Moore Left and hand-me-downs from Euro anti-globalist radicals. Thus America, al Qaeda assures us, “seeks to ravage the entire globe for the interest…of corporate companies,” and so kills the sons of Islam “in Palestine, Afghanistan, the Balkans, Indonesia, the Caucuses, and elsewhere.”
Apparently about three billion Europeans, Asians, Russians, and Indians have been picking on poor suicide bombers and terrorists, who, in fact, are incognito environmentalists bent on stopping corporate exploitation of Mother Earth.
Yet there is one and only one legitimate objection of the crackpot radical Islamists that rings true: We in the West don’t listen to them when they promise us our deaths.
We should. They are yelling as loud as they can to tell us something that we don’t really want to hear.
— Victor Davis Hanson is a military historian and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. His website is victorhanson.com.
Posted by Flanstein at 10:49 AM
Blair Speaks Reality: “Exclude And Deport” : Muslim Murderers
Blair Speaks Reality: “Exclude And Deport” : Muslim Murderers
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J. Grant Swank, Jr.
2005/08/05
Finally a freedom-based national leader is speaking reality concerning the truth that the civilized world is already waging World War III. It is the Muslim murderers global versus the non-Muslims.
In order to win this war, leaders have to quit rhetoric staging for news feeds and start acting. We’ve had enough speeches on national resolve. Now it’s time to get rid of the killers international by hoisting them out of our countries. It’s either that or corralling them into internment camps.
Now British Prime Minister Tony Blair states that it’s imperative that liberty nations “exclude and deport” immigrants who intend on slaughtering the innocent. As far as England is concerned, new policies are going to put into action.
“Exclude” should mean internment. “Deport” should mean deportation.
“The rules of the game are changing,” Blair said. In fact, the rules of the game have needed changing for some time now, at least since 9/11.
Freedom-based republics are far too lenient with personages within their borders who disagree with the basic freedom postulates of the republics. Freedom means having the right to spout off, disagree, be contentious and go to the streets shouting all sorts of disputing remarks.
With that kind of open season for doing-one’s-own-thing, Muslim murderers global have schemed to take over the open fields of liberty nations. They are going far beyond the rants and raves of biased speakers in the parks.
Their plan is to kill off every non-Muslim so that Islam rules the planet. Blair is finally realizing that that is the nub of the enemy’s plot. There is no other agenda with Islamic slayers. They will kill even their own if their own get in the way of Allah’s command to wipe out all non-Muslims.
Blair has already called the Muslim killing cult an “evil ideology.” US President George W. Bush has now moved from referring to Islam as a “peace religion” to calling it “an ideology of hate.”
With the change in vernacular and definition regarding Islam, Blair is now providing his citizenry with ousting plans. He said it could come about via the Human Rights Act being amended.
Blair has even gone so far as to state that his own nation’s security forces can prosecute “preachers of hate” who are located near and in mosques. That means that Blair’s target for change is indeed the Islamic killing cult.
Again, Islam is not really a world religion among world religions; it is a killing cult. No other world religion espouses killing those who disagree with its tenets; Islam does have that as its baseline.
Blair now adds to his statement that Muslims are a part of an “evil ideology” that they are also led by mosque clerics and others who are “preachers of hate.”
Blair goes further to state that anyone wanting to house in Britain will not be permitted across the borders if they are discovered to be a part of the worldwide takeover for Islam.
Knowing that there are Muslims in Britain who regard themselves as honorable, Blair did state a footnote informing the public that such individuals would not be categorized with the Muslim murderers global.
However, the reality is that there are no truly peace-oriented Muslims in the world. All Muslims are bound to the Koran’s Allah who has dictated that every Muslim see through the slaughter of every non-Muslim.
Therefore, every Koran disciple is bound to be a potential killer or be killed by a Muslim who is in fact a killer.
Blair is then caught with a dilemma when he opens the door for so-called peace-oriented Muslims to remain in Britain for no one can guarantee any Muslim dweller as being totally for peace. No one.
There are sleeper cells in all freedom-based countries. These cells are waiting to explode, such initiated by so-called peace-oriented Muslims. Therefore, we live alongside the enemy every day everywhere.
What Blair is coming to is what Mr. Bush must come to. I envision that as soon as the United States experiences a London-type bombing, Mr. Bush will be dittoing the same words as Blair.
What is needed is for Mr. Bush to make such declarations now. Americans cannot wait for more carnage. We have already had our London bombing in the horrific scenes of 9/11. What then are we waiting for?
Deport the Muslims or place them in internment camps. There are those who oppose these measures. But the time will come when there will be no alternatives. With that, we must make that “time will come” to be present-tense.
Posted by Flanstein at 12:00 PM
Terror magazine published openly in Turkey -- idolizes bin Laden
"Tiny minority" of extremists in Turkey love their Osama!" from MEMRI,
The weekly political magazine Tempo and some major Turkish daily newspapers such as Milliyet, Aksam and Cumhuriyet have reported that the Islamist Turkish terrorist organization "Great East Islamic Raiders Front" began publishing a new weekly magazine named 'Kaide,' which openly praises Al-Qaida and idolizes Osama bin Laden. The Kaide magazine, which looks like an Al-Qaida bulletin and publishes all their announcements, is published legally in Istanbul and is sold in all the newsstands in Turkey.
"May Allah Protect Bin Laden from the Evil of His Enemies"
The weekly Turkish magazine Tempo conducted an interview with [Ali Osman Zor], an executive of the new IBDA-C magazine Kaide, in their offices in Kasimpasa, Istanbul. Following are excerpts:(3)
"[...] Even the plain fact that Al-Qaida has an office in Kasimpasa, in the middle of Istanbul, where they publish this [Kaide] magazine, is frightening. Despite the publishers' claim that they only have 'emotional ties' with Al Qaeda, the entire Kaide magazine is prepared like an Al-Qaida bulletin. On the London attacks their headline reads: 'Al-Qaida is freeing the World' and many pages are dedicated to the statements by Al-Qaida. The Kaide magazine boasts of the beheadings in Afghanistan and Iraq by saying 'the jihad fighters continue to behead!' and all its pages are filled with frightening statements and threats. Kaide also displays the ties between IBDA-C [...] and Al Qaeda....
The weekly Turkish magazine Tempo conducted an interview with [Ali Osman Zor], an executive of the new IBDA-C magazine Kaide, in their offices in Kasimpasa, Istanbul. Following are excerpts:(3)...
Tempo: What are your thoughts about Osama bin Laden?
Kaide: We pray for all those who fight for Islam's world domination. Bin Laden is a heroic fighter of Islam. Like many Muslims we are proud of him. Bin Laden expresses the accumulated anger felt by Muslims for centuries against the 'infidel'. We believe that bin Laden, like our commander Mirzabeyoglu and our soul-mate Carlos the Jackal5, is one of the architects of the new world that will be built following Islam's victory. May Allah protect bin Laden from the evil of his enemies.
Posted by Flanstein at 8:56 AM
Deport muslim hate-mongers!
Tony Blair gets tough with islamic scumbags who seek to bring down the west with violence. The only question is, how many does he deport?
LONDON — Foreigners who preach hatred, sponsor violence or belong to extremist groups could be deported from Britain (search) under strict new measures that Prime Minister Tony Blair announced Friday, nearly a month after homicide bombers killed 52 people on London's transit system.
Membership in extremist Islamic groups such as Hizb-ut-Tahrir (search) would become a crime under the new measures. The group, which advocates the creation of an Islamic state in Central Asia, already is outlawed in several countries.
Blair said the government also would compile a list of Web sites, bookshops and centers that incite hatred and violence. British nationals involved with such organizations could face strict penalties. Foreign nationals could be deported, he said.
"They come here and they play by our rules and our way of life," Blair said at his monthly news conference. "If they don't, they are going to have to go."
The government would hold a one-month consultation on new grounds for excluding and deporting people from the United Kingdom (search), he said.
Posted by Flanstein at 1:06 PM
The Muslim mind is on fire
If only more muslims were like Youssef M. Ibrahim (or Irshad Mani for that matter) those of us who live in the civilized world wouldn't feel as threatend by the "religion of peace"...
http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20050726-073844-6818r
Opinion: The Muslim mind is on fire
Youssef M. Ibrahim
July 26, 2005
DUBAI -- The world of Islam is on fire. Indeed, the Muslim mind is on fire. Above all, the West is now ready to take both of them on.
The latest reliable report confirms that on average 33 Iraqis die every day, executed by Iraqis and foreign jihadis and suicide bombers, not by US or British soldiers. In fact, fewer than ever US or British soldiers are dying since the invasion more than two years ago. Instead, we now watch on television hundreds of innocent Iraqis lying without limbs, bleeding in the streets dead or wounded for life. If this is jihad someone got his religious education completely upside down.
Palestine is on fire, too, with Palestinian armed groups fighting one another - Hamas against Fatah and all against the Palestinian Authority. All have rendered Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas impotent and have diminished the world's respect and sympathy for Palestinian sufferings.
A couple of weeks ago London was on fire as Pakistani and other Muslims with British citizenship blew up tube stations in the name of Islam. Al Qaeda in Europe or one of its franchises proclaimed proudly the killing of 54 and wounding 700 innocent citizens was done to "avenge Islam" and Muslims.
Madrid was on fire, too, last year, when Muslim jihadis blew up train stations killing 160 people and wounding a few thousands.
The excuse in all the above cases was the war in Iraq, but let us not forget that in September 2001, long before Iraq, Osama Bin Laden proudly announced that he ordered the killing of some 3,000 in the United States, in the name of avenging Islam. Let us not forget that the killing began a long time before the invasion of Iraq.
Indeed, jihadis have been killing for a decade in the name of Islam. They killed innocent tourists and natives in Morocco and Egypt, in Africa, in Indonesia and in Yemen, all done in the name of Islam by Muslims who say that they are better than all other Muslims. They killed in India, in Thailand and are now talking of killing in Germany and Denmark and so on. There were attacks with bombs that killed scores inside Shia and Sunni mosques, inside churches and inside synagogues in Turkey and Tunisia, with Muslim preachers saying that it is okay to kill Jews and Christians - the so called infidels.
Above all, it is the Muslim mind that is on fire.
The Muslim fundamentalist who attacked the Dutch film director Theo Van Gogh in the Netherlands, stabbed him more than 23 times then cut his throat. He recently proudly proclaimed at his trial: "I did it because my religion - Islam - dictated it and I would do it again if were free." Which preacher told this guy this is Islam? That preacher should be in jail with him.
Do the cowardly jihadis who recruit suicide bombers really think that they will force the US Army and British troops out of Iraq by killing hundreds of innocent Iraqis? US troops now have bases and operate in Iraq but also from Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Oman.
The only accomplishment of jihadis is that now they have aroused the great "Western Tiger". There was a time when the United States and Europe welcomed Arab and Muslim immigrants, visitors and students, with open arms. London even allowed all dissidents escaping their countries to preach against those countries under the guise of political refugees.
Well, that is all over now. Time has come for the big Western vengeance.
Visas for Arab and Muslim young men will be impossible to get for the United States and Western Europe. Those working there will be expelled if they are illegal, and harassed even if their papers are in order.
Airlines will have to right to refuse boarding to passengers if their names even resemble names on a prohibited list on all flights heading to Europe and the United States.
What is more important to remember is this: When the West did unite after World War II to beat communism, the long Cold War began without pity. They took no prisoners. They all stood together, from the United States to Norway, from Britain to Spain, from Belgium to Switzerland. And they did bring down the biggest empire. Communism collapsed.
I fear those naïve Muslims who think that they are beating the West have now achieved their worst crime of all. The West is now going to war against not only Muslims, but also, sadly, Islam as a religion.
Youssef M. Ibrahim, a former Middle East correspondent for The New York Times and energy editor of the Wall Street Journal, is managing director of the Dubai-based Strategic Energy Investment Group
Posted by Flanstein at 6:55 AM
What Do the Terrorists Want?
Appeasing twits like Steven insist that the bloodshed we experience at the hands of islamists is really our own fault. That Osama is no worse than the dudes in the IRA and that all we need to do to make them stop is leave Iraq and Afghanistan.
What Do the Terrorists Want?
by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
July 26, 2005
What do Islamist terrorists want? The answer should be obvious, but it is not.
Most anti-Western terrorist attacks these days are perpetrated without demands being enunciated. Bombs go off, planes get hijacked and crashed into buildings, hotels collapse. The dead are counted. Detectives trace back the perpetrators' identities. Shadowy websites make post-hoc unauthenticated claims.
But the reasons for the violence go unexplained. Analysts, including myself, are left speculating about motives. These can relate to terrorists' personal grievances based in poverty, prejudice, or cultural alienation. Alternately, an intention to change international policy can be seen as a motive: pulling "a Madrid" and getting governments to withdraw their troops from Iraq; convincing Americans to leave Saudi Arabia; ending American support for Israel; pressuring New Delhi to cede control of all Kashmir.
Any of these motives could have contributed to the violence; as London's Daily Telegraph puts it, problems in Iraq and Afghanistan each added "a new pebble to the mountain of grievances that militant fanatics have erected." Yet neither is decisive to giving up one's life for the sake of killing others.
In nearly all cases, the jihadi terrorists have a patently self-evident ambition: to establish a world dominated by Muslims, Islam, and Islamic law, the Shari'a. Or, again to cite the Daily Telegraph, their "real project is the extension of the Islamic territory across the globe, and the establishment of a worldwide ‘caliphate' founded on Shari'a law."
Terrorists openly declare this goal. The Islamists who assassinated Anwar el-Sadat in 1981 decorated their holding cages with banners proclaiming the "caliphate or death." A biography of one of the most influential Islamist thinkers of recent times and an influence on Osama bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam declares that his life "revolved around a single goal, namely the establishment of Allah's Rule on earth" and restoring the caliphate.
Bin Laden himself spoke of ensuring that "the pious caliphate will start from Afghanistan." His chief deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, also dreamed of re-establishing the caliphate, for then, he wrote, "history would make a new turn, God willing, in the opposite direction against the empire of the United States and the world's Jewish government." Another Al-Qaeda leader, Fazlur Rehman Khalil, publishes a magazine that has declared "Due to the blessings of jihad, America's countdown has begun. It will declare defeat soon," to be followed by the creation of a caliphate.
Or, as Mohammed Bouyeri wrote in the note he attached to the corpse of Theo van Gogh, the Dutch filmmaker he had just assassinated, "Islam will be victorious through the blood of martyrs who spread its light in every dark corner of this earth."
Interestingly, van Gogh's murderer was frustrated by the mistaken motives attributed to him, insisting at his trial: "I did what I did purely out of my beliefs. I want you to know that I acted out of conviction and not that I took his life because he was Dutch or because I was Moroccan and felt insulted."
Although terrorists state their jihadi motives loudly and clearly, Westerners and Muslims alike too often fail to hear them. Islamic organizations, Canadian author Irshad Manji observes, pretend that "Islam is an innocent bystander in today's terrorism."
What the terrorists want is abundantly clear. It requires monumental denial not to acknowledge it, but we Westerners have risen to the challenge.
Posted by Flanstein at 4:47 PM
F**k allah and his pedophile prophet...
Life sentence for killer of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh
Last Updated Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:13:04 EDT
CBC News
A man in the Netherlands was sent to prison for life on Tuesday for killing controversial filmmaker Theo van Gogh.
The court called the killing a terrorist act.
Mohammed Bouyeri, a 27-year-old Dutch citizen, received the harshest sentence possible.
"The murder of Theo van Gogh provoked a wave of revulsion and disdain in the Netherlands," Judge Udo Willem Bentinck said in Amsterdam.
"Theo van Gogh was mercilessly slaughtered," the judge said, adding that his killing caused "great fear and insecurity" in the Netherlands.
Bouyeri ambushed the filmmaker on an Amsterdam street in November 2004.
FROM NOV. 2, 2004: Controversial filmmaker Theo van Gogh killed
He shot Van Gogh repeatedly, stabbed him, and slit his throat before thrusting a letter – the killer's manifesto – into his chest on the point of a knife.
Bouyeri showed no emotion as the verdict was read out and shook his lawyer's hand afterwards.
He'd earlier told the court he was following his religious beliefs.
"I was motivated by the law that commands me to cut off the head of anyone who insults Allah and his prophet," he said.
He also said he intended to die in the attack on Van Gogh, to become a martyr for his faith.
Van Gogh, a distant relative of the artist Vincent van Gogh, was apparently targeted because of his 2004 short film Submission, which told fictional stories of Muslim women who were sexually and physically abused.
Posted by Flanstein at 7:24 AM
Some muslims admit what the problem is...
Muslims and violence
Monday July 25, 2005
The Guardian
For Muslim religious leaders to condemn the London bombings is commendable. But to support this by saying Islam is unequivocally a religion of peace is disingenuous (Comment, July 22). The prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) himself, while at times preaching tolerance, also ordered the murder of all the men of a belligerent Jewish tribe and the enslavement of all its women and children, following the seizure of Medina - irrespective of whether they were combatants or not. In similar manner, many Muslim leaders justify the killing of Israeli civilians by Muslim suicide bombers and some also justify the terror on the tube because of the UK's role in the invasion of Iraq.
Over and above this all-pervasive contradictory attitude within Islam are Islamic laws which are even more straightforwardly barbaric on a host of topics, such as holding a women's testimony in a court of law to be worth less than a man's, or the mandatory death penalty for practising homosexuals and Muslims whose conscience tells them to leave Islam (apostates).
Some Muslims choose to turn a blind eye to the uncomfortable words that stare them in the face. But as people who (along with hundreds of others) narrowly escaped death on the underground, we strongly feel that this conspiracy of silence about the very real violence in religious texts needs to be broken.
Raza Griffiths
Shahzad Ahmed
Posted by Flanstein at 11:28 AM
"moderate" muslim threatens Canada
Imam warns Ottawa to back off Muslims
By COLIN FREEZE
Monday, July 25, 2005
A controversial Toronto imam warned Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan at a closed-door meeting to stop "terrorizing" Canadian Muslims.
"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control," Aly Hindy, the head of Scarborough's Salaheddin Islamic Centre, recalls telling the minister at the May meeting she held in Toronto with dozens of Muslim leaders.
The meeting was part of an effort by Ms. McLellan to reach out to Canadian Muslims amid complaints that the RCMP and Canadian Security Intelligence Service are engaging in racial profiling.
The minister and her officials have been meeting community leaders to explain they are not targeting Muslims generally, only individuals with possible terrorist links.
By many accounts, the meetings have been positive and are contributing to a thaw in relations between Muslims and security agents, even if the exchange in May was a little heated.
Mr. Hindy, who has long complained that CSIS is spying on him, his family and his mosque, told Ms. McLellan that a young Muslim woman complained to him she was roughed up by Canadian spies while her husband was away at prayers. This allegation could spur reprisals because "our women are the most valuable thing to us" and "for a Muslim, honour is more important than his life," Mr. Hindy said in a recent interview.
"Our women" What kind of 12th century clod is this?
He made the point to the minister. Several people who attended shrugged off the imam's remarks, but some Muslims and government agents later approached Mr. Hindy asking him to explain himself.
"The police came to me and said, 'This is a kind of threat,' and I said yes," he said. "But it's for the good of this country.
"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "
Proving again my contention that every muslim is a threat to our society
While government investigators probing the woman's complaint told Mr. Hindy they have not found evidence of wrongdoing, he isn't giving the spy service the benefit of the doubt.
"We believe CSIS should stop terrorizing us," he says in a flyer he is circulating to mosques. "CSIS is powerless. CSIS has no authority over you. If CSIS agents come to your door, do not open [it] for them."
Toronto's Coalition of Muslim Organizations arranged the meeting, and said about 100 Muslim leaders attended. While COMO president Adam Esse noted that, "some people, when they talk, they get a little heated," he said the ministerial visit was "a sign of respect" and was worthwhile overall. "If you talk, you remove a lot of misconceptions, a lot of misunderstandings."
A spokesman for Ms. McLellan agreed. "We feel it was constructive, positive," Alex Swann said.
Even Mr. Hindy said that despite his differences with security agencies "the Deputy Prime Minister, she was very understanding."
In the wake of the London bombings, Ms. McLellan has said that Canadians must become "psychologically prepared" for such an attack.
It looks like we know where it is going to come from...
Posted by Flanstein at 8:09 AM
Tiny minority are evil? Not according to this...
Poll shows support for bombers.
A new poll says about a quarter of British Muslims sympathise with the motives of the London bombers, if not their methods.
And the survey in London’s Daily Telegraph shows one-third of British Muslims believe Western society is immoral.
The poll asked Muslims if they felt the July the 7th suicide attacks in which 56 peopled died were justified, and six per cent said they were.
71 per cent said they weren’t justified at all, and 11 per cent said they weren’t justified on balance.
But asked whether they had sympathy with the feelings and motives of the four British Muslim bombers, 13 per cent said they had a lot of sympathy and another 11 per cent had a little.
A similar poll for The Sun newspaper showed 91 per cent of the Muslim respondents didn’t feel the suicide bombings were justified by the Islamic holy book, the Koran.
Posted by Flanstein at 9:58 AM





